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Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill

In Committee

Friday 21 May 2010 Hansard source (external site)

(continued on Friday, 21 May 2010)

Debate resumed.

Part 1 Personal tax cuts, company tax cuts, and GST rate increase: 1 October 2010 start (continued)

NashSTUART NASH (Labour) Link to this

We heard some interesting speeches in the Chamber last night. One of the most interesting speeches was the one from Simon Bridges, who stood up and said this Budget was not about the wealthy lawyers—and obviously he is one—but about the street sweepers and the cleaners. Mr Bridges said this Budget allowed the street sweepers to actually get ahead and advance themselves. He thought that an extra $5 a week would allow that to occur. Well, I would argue, of course, that the street sweepers had a chance to get ahead because they had adult and community education. But I can tell members that in Hawke’s Bay there are no more courses going on at the moment. Of course, cutting the education budget in real terms, cutting community education even further, and cutting tertiary education means that this Budget is not about getting ahead at all; this Budget is about going backwards. But I digress.

I will talk about the GST increases. I will give members a real-world example that Mr Quinn could well learn something from; I think that his mother, who lives in Napier, will be very interested in this. We are talking about the elderly sector. In Napier about 10,000 people rely on superannuation, and that number will increase by another 12,000 in 15 years’ time. That does not mean we will get 10,000 plus another 12,000, because obviously some will fall out of that group. But I am saying a significant number of New Zealanders—

QuinnPaul Quinn Link to this

They’ll be well looked after, and they’ll do better than most.

NashSTUART NASH Link to this

—and again I think Mr Quinn would agree with this, and he must be nearly there, because I think he is going a little senile—rely on national superannuation to get through.

These New Zealanders have worked hard for their whole lives. They have worked, they have strived, and by and large they have paid their taxes, no matter what the amount was. We heard that they used to pay 66 percent tax, then they paid 33 percent, and then it went to 38 percent. They have paid tax all their lives, and they do not ask for much. We must admit that our elderly do not actually ask for much, but they know when they are being had.

PillayLynne Pillay Link to this

Just dignity.

NashSTUART NASH Link to this

That is right, Lynne; they just ask for dignity—they want to retire with dignity. When people have worked all their lives and reach 65, they want to be able to enjoy life. It does not cost much. These people do not receive much income from their superannuation, but they do not complain. They want to go out with their mates and enjoy their bowls.

Of course, when adult and community education was cut the elderly were concerned, because that actually took away a lot of the support networks and friendships and clubs that they belonged to. But that was OK—they grumbled, but they lived with that. With this increase in GST, though, they are really concerned, because the increase in GST erodes their spending power. What is worse than that is that we have inflation coming in, in 2011, of 5.9 percent. That is not a Labour figure. Someone said to me last night that that is just scaremongering. Well, I can tell members that that figure of 5.9 percent is not a Labour figure; it is a Government figure. If members look at page 3 of the Minister’s Executive Summary, which is in volume B.2 and B.3 of the Budget documents, they will see that it refers to the figure of 5.9 percent inflation.

A lot of the elderly in our community rely on interest earned from their savings and investments to top up their national superannuation in order to live a life of dignity and have a decent standard of living. That inflation rate will erode the real spending power and the real value of these investments. We all know examples of this. We all know people who live in big homes and who say that they bought them in 1950 for only £20,000, and we think: “Goodness me, that was cheap.” But, of course, those people would have earned only £2,000 a year then. That is what inflation does: it erodes real value; it erodes the value of investments. An elderly person on superannuation who put away $100,000 and is living off the interest—and the resident withholding tax will have already gone up on that—will find that high inflation erodes those savings. I did a radio interview this morning, and I mentioned this. The guy said: “Yeah, but inflation is coming down after that. It’s a one-off hit.” It is a one-off hit; we admit that. But that does not mean that prices will drop; it just means that prices will increase by 5.9 percent, then increase by 2.4 percent again. It does not mean that prices will drop again. So the reduced value of investments created by the one-off hit of the GST increase will hit superannuitants a lot harder than I think the vast majority of people think. That is why I have a major concern about this increase.

QuinnPAUL QUINN (National) Link to this

It is important to realise that the genesis of yesterday’s tax announcements lies in the changes made by that chappie called Cullen in 1999, when, driven by his fantasy of what he called “rich pricks”, he introduced an envy tax. All this bill does is remove the envy tax that Cullen brought in in 1999. That enables people, the true professional people in this country, such as doctors and hard-working New Zealanders—

QuinnPAUL QUINN Link to this

Exactly. It enables those people to get on. They are the people whom that shameful former Minister of Finance hit when he was trying to get at what he called ‘rich pricks”. The fact of the matter, as we know now, is that none of the real rich people—

NashStuart Nash Link to this

I raise a point of order, Mr Chairperson. I take personal offence at the member calling Dr Cullen shameful. I think that is a slur on his character, and I take offence at it.

RoyThe CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) Link to this

There are two measures here. The first is that members can take offence and register that to the Chair. The second test whether the offence is in fact one that should be accorded some response from the Chair. The kind of test of that—and I think the member should look at Speaker’s ruling 45/1—is whether the House itself is offended. Otherwise members would be jumping up and down the whole time. But having said that to that member, I say to the other member that when we start getting into what we might call “on the verge debate”, the House itself descends to a level that is not productive. This is early in the day, so can we just have a bit of generosity.

QuinnPAUL QUINN Link to this

You mean I should go soft on the Opposition, Mr Chairman. I am happy to go very soft on the Opposition. One has only to look at the straw polls that have flowed across the country to see that 80 percent of the populace, 80 percent of the people whom Labour alleges it represents, are actually in favour of this Budget. It is about time the Opposition benches conceded they are out of touch not only with ordinary New Zealanders across the board, across every career group including professionals, but with ordinary working people whom Labour alleges it represents in the House.

The polls on this Budget demonstrate that people support this Government. That is why they voted us in—to undertake measures like this. I know that that will be hard for Labour members to accept, but my advice during the course of this debate is that they concede the Budget is an outstanding one, and quickly move on through this debate. They will then be able to go home early this afternoon and actually get re-engaged with their constituents—and find that those constituents support this Budget. That is my advice to the Opposition.

MackeyMOANA MACKEY (Labour) Link to this

It is always an honour to follow on from Paul Quinn, who, apparently, overnight has spoken to every person in New Zealand and is testament to the old adage that ignorance never sleeps. Mr Quinn talked about Labour’s “envy tax” in 1999 when we raised the top tax threshold. At least we went out on the election campaign trail and were honest about what we were going to do. Mr Quinn’s party, the National Party, went out on the election campaign and promised that it would not increase GST. In 1999 Labour did exactly what it promised. We did not hide anything during the election campaign, and I think that is an important distinction. Mr Quinn might not think so; he might think it is OK to say one thing to the voters of New Zealand before the election and do the exact opposite afterwards, as National said before the election that it would not increase GST, but has increased it afterwards. The people of New Zealand will see that for what it is, which is a tax swindle.

Mr Quinn referred to the Close Up poll last night where he said 80 percent of people are for this Budget. I tell Mr Quinn that that is because the people who are opposed to it could not afford 75c a text to phone in like his rich mates can. The National research unit would have been sending emails around telling people to text in and make sure they say that they are for the Budget.

MackeyMOANA MACKEY Link to this

I tell Mr Quinn that thanks to the Budget of the National Party that was put up yesterday, most people cannot afford 75c to text in and say what they think about the National Government’s Budget. I suggest he stops listening to unscientific polls and goes out and talks to people. I think he stood in Hutt South; I cannot remember how well he did. But he should go out and talk to people in that electorate.

QuinnPaul Quinn Link to this

Read the Dominion Post; the Dominion Post rang them.

MackeyMOANA MACKEY Link to this

I ask Mr Quinn why he does not go out and talk to people, rather than read the Dominion Post. He should ask those families who will have their early childhood education subsidies cut whether they think it was a good Budget. He should go and talk to those people who are having their home help services cut about whether they think this is a good Budget. He should go and talk to those schools that are having their budgets cut and ask them whether they think this is a good Budget. This bill is a tax swindle, and Part 1 is one of the worst parts of this swindle. It locks into place the broken promises of the National-led Government.

National promised there would not be an increase in GST, as I said. Mr Tremain might think this is boring, but the fact is that he went out on the campaign trail and promised that he would not increase GST. He promised that. Is this a broken promise?

MackeyMOANA MACKEY Link to this

Apparently looking down the barrel of a TV camera and saying: “I will not increase GST.”, then increasing GST, is not a broken promise according to the National Government. That explains a lot about this Budget.

How is this being paid for? It is being paid for by borrowing for tax cuts. That was the other thing that National, when in Opposition, promised it would not do. The National Government has to now borrow half a billion dollars a year to pay for these unaffordable tax cuts for the people who funded them during the election campaign. The people who funded them during the election campaign are the people who get the biggest benefit from Part 1 of this legislation.

I want to talk about the removal of the 20 percent depreciation loading on new plant and equipment for assets purchased after Budget day. This Government has been terrible for innovation. This Government took away everything Labour did when we were in Government, then brought back less than half what we did and proclaimed it to be a great day for science, for research and development, and for innovation. Lo and behold, in the Budget we have another whack on innovation. It is something else that will stop our most innovative companies from being able to get ahead and compete in this crucial area. This shows how hollow National’s words are when it comes to supporting innovative businesses. The fact that National put Wayne Mapp in charge of the portfolio is another thing. He is the man who went out after the election and kept saying to people that he never wanted the portfolio.

HipkinsChris Hipkins Link to this

The political correctness eradicator.

MackeyMOANA MACKEY Link to this

Wayne Mapp, the political correctness eradicator, has also become the innovation eradicator in this Government. I ask how someone can stand up with a straight face and say that this is a Government that supports research and development, when the measures that have been lauded and brought back in Part 1 of this Budget are less than half of what Labour put in place when we were in Government.

StreetHon MARYAN STREET (Labour) Link to this

I wish to speak to Part 1 of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. There is only one part I wish to speak to, which is the increase in GST. I would like to unpack that a little bit in so far as the way it will impact on students. It seems to me that in this Budget, tertiary education is the big loser—tertiary education across the board is the big loser.

It does not matter how the Government chooses to spin this. Let us have a look at some of the facts and the details. There will be a GST increase, which all students will feel on their rent, their food, and their books. We have not heard anything about any compensation; we have not heard any specifics but let us assume that it is the same compensation that the Government says it intends for superannuitants and beneficiaries—for example, a 2 percent increase on student allowances. First of all, it will not compensate adequately for the GST increase, and, secondly, the 4 percent annual maximum fee movement that the Budget provides for tertiary institutions is GST exclusive. So now students will have to pay not only the increase in GST in everything they purchase in order to live—so that will cut their spending power even further in the supermarket as they search for the cheapest items they can find and for things that are on special—but it will also mean that they will face a 4 percent increase in fees across their institutions and their courses. They will then have to pay GST on top of that.

But let us look more closely, because the 4 percent annual maximum fee movement is effectively a cut for most tertiary institutions. I do not know whether the members opposite grasp this point. Previously there was a spectrum up to 5 percent for institutions under the fee maxima policy—they could raise their fees on courses by up to 5 percent. Now Auckland University is probably the only institution that is sitting at its fee maxima on its courses. Other institutions—universities and polytechs—are sitting somewhat beneath their fee maxima. Auckland University may do quite well because it is allowed to increase things by 4 percent, although it might have wished to be able to increase things by 5 percent. The 4 percent that it is getting now means that that was rather unexpected and will be useful, given that it is sitting at its fee maxima. However, other institutions whose courses are not sitting at their fee maxima may have wanted to go to their 5 percent in order to recover the costs that this Government is not putting into tertiary education. So they are getting a 1 percent cut. That is a cut to the institutions, and I want to know how the members opposite justify that.

It is clear that this Government is shifting the cost of tertiary education away from the Government and into the institutions, on to the institutions themselves and, further than that, on to students. So not only do students have to wear the 2.5 percent increase—the 15 percent GST, which is in Part 1—on everything they buy, but also they have to wear that on top of a 4 percent course fee increase.

I am not sure that members opposite have grasped this, but further to that there are cuts in this Budget to adult and community education, which indicate that this Government has learnt nothing from the intense protests last year about cuts to adult and community education. It has taken $3.4 million out of schools and community groups. I think that was about all that was left last year in the adult and community education budget, which went to schools and the community groups that they fund. I need the Minister to clarify what is left for night classes. These are the night classes that Mr English so praised previously because he said his mother was able to take advantage of night classes in secondary schools.

HipkinsCHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka) Link to this

This Budget demonstrates very clearly what a cruel hoax the National Party played on New Zealanders at the last election. National members went up and down the country and said that New Zealanders could have significant tax cuts, with no cuts to public services and no increase in borrowing. They could still have big tax cuts. Did they get that yesterday? No, they did not. They got both of those things: they got cuts to public services, and they got an increase in borrowing to pay for tax cuts. That is exactly what the National Party said it would not do. This is a Budget of broken promises—be very clear about that. National broke so many of the promises made in its manifesto, it is almost impossible to count them all.

John Key stared down the barrel of a TV camera and said that if he did a halfway decent job of managing the economy, National would not need to increase GST. Here we are, only 18 months into National’s management of the economy, and what has it done? National has increased GST in order to pay for tax cuts that will disproportionately go to those on the highest incomes.

A full third of the money that was dished out in tax cuts yesterday goes to the top 5 percent of income earners. People like Mr Key, and me even, who are in the top 5 percent of income earners will get the lion’s share of the tax cuts that are being dished out, while those on the lowest incomes will continue to scrape by in order to meet the increased cost of living that this Budget will impose through increased GST and increased inflation. Every time hard-working Kiwis go to the supermarket, they will pay more. Every time they fill up their cars at the petrol station, they will pay more. Every time they pay their rates bill, they will pay more. For every bill they pay that has GST on it, they will pay more. New Zealanders will pay more. People on average and lower incomes will be given only modest, very small tax cuts that will not compensate for the extra money that average, hard-working New Zealanders will be paying in order to fund the tax cuts that disproportionately go to those on the highest incomes. Broken promises are what this Budget is all about.

There were going to be no cuts to early childhood education under National, but that is exactly what it has done. Not only has National made cuts to early childhood education but it has made cuts to the highest-quality early childhood education. Those parents who send their kids to early childhood centres that made the effort to get 100 percent of their staff qualified are having their funding cut. They are going to pay more; if they have 2 kids they will have to, potentially, pay 50 bucks extra a week—50 bucks extra a week—for their early childhood education. It will not be compensated for by the tax cuts that the Government has offered. Those families will get clobbered. That is a broken promise.

National said that it would keep student loans interest-free. Well, the Government has not introduced a market interest rate: it has introduced a new annual fee instead. That is another broken promise. It said that it would not introduce interest-free student loans and instead it has introduced a new annual fee.

National said it would focus resources on the front line, and would deliver tax cuts. National has not focused on the front line in respect of accident compensation. In fact, it has doubled the policy advice budget for the Accident Compensation Corporation. Why has National done that? Because Nick Smith wants more advice on how to privatise accident compensation. National says that in the Budget document. National has another $2 million going into policy advice on how it can privatise the accident compensation scheme. This is another broken promise from the National Government.

The biggest hoax of all, though, was that National would not increase borrowing to pay for its tax cuts, because that is exactly what it is doing in this Budget. I say to all of the baby boomers in particular who will retire in the next 10 years that there will be a significant increase in the cost to the Crown of their retirement. Where will the money to pay for their superannuation come from? Where will the money to pay for their health care come from? The Government has not been contributing to the Superannuation Fund, and it is still not contributing to the fund. Instead, it is giving out tax cuts to those on the highest incomes. What does that mean for the baby boomers who will be retiring in the next 10 to 15 years? John Key said that he will resign if their superannuation is cut. He will not be here in 10 to 15 years’ time when the baby boomers retire, but he will have left a strategic deficit, a massive deficit. Borrowing to pay for tax cuts will be his legacy. In 10 years’ time we will have increased debt and a baby-boomer population wanting to retire and wanting their superannuation, and the cupboard will be bare. There will be no money left to pay for it, because John Key and Bill English dished it all out in unaffordable tax cuts in this year’s Budget.

CosgroveHon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour—Waimakariri) Link to this

People have called this Budget a “borrow and hope Budget”. In fact, Ganesh Nana on Morning Report this morning when asked—[ Interruption] Shirley Temple in the corner over there laughs, as she is wont to do. She laughs at everything. She laughs when a rapist is on the run, laughs when a corrections officer gets his bones broken, laughs, laughs, and continues to laugh. But here is the thing that Ganesh Nana said—

CollinsHon Judith Collins Link to this

I raise a point of order, Mr Chairperson. The member is now becoming extremely unparliamentary in his language. If he wants to call me by my correct name, Judith Collins, he can, but to refer to me as Shirley Temple is frankly just ridiculous and is just another example of his behaviour in this Chamber.

RoyThe CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) Link to this

There is a longstanding convention that members are addressed by their correct names and titles. The member should contain his remarks just to the bill and I advise him to do that.

CosgroveHon CLAYTON COSGROVE Link to this

Absolutely. I note for the record that my friend Charles Chauvel, who is a bit of a movie historian, I am told, noted that the actress Shirley Temple was a far better diplomat than some around here.

But Ganesh Nana the economist said that this is a Budget where the Government has borrowed for tax cuts. He is a learned economist and said it has borrowed. It is very interesting because Judith Collins could be described as a bit of a cappuccino politician: if one gets rid of the froth there ain’t a lot of coffee left in the cup. It is interesting. I did not call her that, Mr Chairman; I was making an analogy. This is a “borrow and hope Budget”. It is “borrow” for tax cuts for millionaires and “hope” that the inflation rate does not hit Treasury’s forecast of 5.9 percent. That is what it is, so let the old cappuccino politician over there suck that one up.

Indeed, I invite Judith Collins to go to the people of her electorate, which I believe is Papakura. She is not keen on having public meetings in her electorate but I challenge her to have a public meeting and invite the 67 percent of her constituents—she does not like this, of course—who are earning under $40,000 per year. She is the great, tough Minister. She is going to get tough on everybody, right? I invite her to have a public meeting and get tough with those 67 percent of her constituents who are earning under $40,000 a year, and get a tax cut that is negated absolutely by GST, which is then negated absolutely by the 5.9 percent inflation increase—and we have not even started on accident compensation levy increases, car registration increases, and the list goes on. So I invite that gutsy Minister of Police, that gutsy Minister of Corrections who is so tough, who wears a grin bigger than a Cheshire cat around this Chamber, who is tough with everybody, to continue to show her enormous intestinal fortitude and have a public meeting in her electorate with the 67 percent of her constituents who have missed out—or worse—and who are worse off, thanks to her.

I do not hear the cappuccino machine bubbling away. No, Judith Collins is not so tough now, of course, because she will not do that. I invite Judith Collins at her next police executive meeting to say to Howard Broad: “Look, commissioner, I know that everything your department purchases will go up by 2.5 percent. I know that I have not compensated your department for the Budget cut that I have effectively put in place. But don’t worry, commissioner, because I, as Minister of Police, will swagger around and be tough, and that will compensate you.” Every Government department, every school, every church, every organisation, and non-governmental organisation that purchases goods and services gets a 2.5 percent cut to their budget as of this legislation going through and commencing. But no, we do not hear anything from the corner stall over there, do we? No, she is not so tough now. There are not so many grins coming from over there.

I say to Mr Sharples that in his electorate, 64 percent of his constituents earn under $40,000 per year, and our “weekend warriors” from the Māori Party stood up one after each other last night to say how proud they were of this Budget, and how they had delivered for their constituents.

CosgroveHon CLAYTON COSGROVE Link to this

The tough Minister says “Yep!”. I tell members that that will be a great quote for Labour members who are, or soon will be, clustered around her electorate, to take to the 67-odd percent of her electorate whom she has sold out, and the 64 percent of Mr Sharples’ electorate whom he has sold out. Those people are worse off, and the froth is starting to come off. But those members will not get up and justify that. I will make a bet with anyone in this Chamber that Judith Collins and Pita Sharples and all the old relics over there will not have a public meeting in their electorates.

BurnsBRENDON BURNS (Labour—Christchurch Central) Link to this

This Budget is a payback Budget. It delivers to people who have supported this Government in the past. It is a business-class Budget. It is moving people in business class up to first class, while those down in cattle class start paying for their lunch. This Government sometimes attempts to portray Labour as a party that wants to spend money. Well, the Government is borrowing to cut the top tax rate for those at the top end. We have seen that in the past. It is the sort of policy that Ronald Reagan introduced in the United States. It was called a strategic deficit, and all it did was rob the poor to pay the rich. It is voodoo economics.

Supposedly, the economy will recover to pay for this, but let us look at the Budget tables. The balance of payments has not been in surplus in this country since 1973, since we were last, as a nation, in the black. This Government says it wants to see export-led growth. Well, the balance of payments deficit goes from $4.9 billion this year to $8.9 billion next year, to $13.1 billion the following year, to $15.7 billion the year after that, and to $17.2 billion the year after that, according to Treasury projections. So where is the export-led growth that will reduce our balance of payments deficit? The balance of payments is the measure of what we, as a nation, export as opposed to what we import.

List MP Nicky Wagner said last night that this Budget was a cracker. Well, she should explain that comment to the 76 percent of people in my electorate of Christchurch Central who earn less than $40,000 a year. They will not be calling this Budget a cracker. She should explain that comment to the Manufacturers and Exporters Association based in my electorate of Christchurch Central, who issued a press release about the Budget. It was headed: “Rhetoric does not match the reality.” Chief executive John Walley said: “The changes to property taxation, the corporate tax rate and GST go some way … but they fall a long way short” of what the Tax Working Group recommended. He said: “The removal of accelerated depreciation loading for plant and equipment will be detrimental to business investment.” That is why we are seeing that balance of payments gap deteriorate hugely under this Budget.

We were told that there was a need to cut the top tax rate from 38 percent to 33 percent, because that kind of gap encouraged people to move their tax into company structures to avoid the top tax rate. So what does this Budget do? It cuts the company tax rate back to 28 percent, so the differential between the top tax rate and the business tax rate is still the same—5 percent. Obviously there is still every incentive for people to move their tax into a company where that is possible.

We are told that this Budget is supposedly about driving down the issues of tax shelters. The real impact of this Budget relates to GST and what is yet to come. As Treasury forecasts note, we will see inflation nudging 6 percent in the year ahead, which will simply erode the benefits of the tax cuts being introduced at the middle and lower end of the income scale.

I noted that a housing commentator on Campbell Live last night asked where the stimulus was in this Budget for building new homes. Of course, GST will apply to new homes, so they will cost an extra 2.5 percent. Already, the housing market is less than buoyant; in fact, it is dead flat. The projections are that this Budget will see an 8 to 10 percent depreciation of the existing housing market, which will fall most heavily on the new housing market. This Budget has done nothing to stimulate the building sector—in fact, it is taking it backwards—and we will see much fewer new houses built.

Nothing in this Budget encourages younger New Zealanders, who are first-time home buyers, into their first home. In fact, it does absolutely the opposite. Before members opposite attempt to suggest that tax cuts will stimulate this, I ask them what $1,000 or $2,000 of tax cuts will do for a young couple trying to buy their first home. It will be absolutely eroded by the GST increase, but if there is anything left, what will that contribute to their ability to service a mortgage or to put down a first-home deposit? It will contribute absolutely nothing. Meanwhile, the Budget supposedly trumpets the increases in health and GST, but those are worth nothing with inflation of 6 percent.

BeaumontCAROL BEAUMONT (Labour) Link to this

I rise, too, to speak about the great tax swindle. This Budget is meant to be delivering a taxation system that will better reward work and savings and that will make the system fairer. That is what is explicitly stated in the Government’s rhetoric about this tax swindle. It goes on to say that the Government is delivering a package that not only is fair but is seen to be fair. The Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill has a number of aspects. I will talk about two of them, and those are the lifting of GST and the reducing of personal income tax.

Last night I thought that I would look at the word “fair”, given that much has been made of fairness. We on this side of the House are certainly very committed to the concept of fairness. The Government has used the word “fair” in its Budget statement and all its Budget documentation, so let us look at what it means. According to the Oxford Dictionary the word “fair” is about concepts like justice, equity, and reasonableness. I want to know whether, in all honesty, those people across the other side of the Chamber can consider their actions to date to be fair. The Salvation Army, earlier this year, when it reviewed the first year of this Government in its document A Road to Recovery, noted very strongly that in the last 12 months: “ … gains that have been made over the past 5 years in reducing child poverty have probably been lost, and there are signs of a widening income gap between the well paid and poorly paid.” One could ask whether that is fair.

One could also ask whether the actions in this Budget will address issues like child poverty and widening inequality in New Zealand. I thought that I would look at some of the figures that were given out as part of the Budget package. What will people actually get? Well, if someone earns $16,000 per year, the tax cut will give that person a certain amount extra, but then of course he or she will be paying extra GST, so the person will supposedly be $1.36 better off a week. That is before the implications of inflation and other cost rises, like the increases to accident compensation levies and other costs, that have not been factored into that table are taken into account. So people who earn $16,000 a year will be better off by $1.36 per week. I went on to a supermarket website last night to look at what that would get them. I found that they could buy—probably appropriately—a four-pack of Home Brand toilet paper with what they will receive. The $1.36 will buy a four-pack of toilet paper—that is great!

People on $22,000 per year will also have a tax cut and pay extra GST. As I said, I am not counting in all the other costs associated with rising inflation, accident compensation levy lifts, petrol lifts, and all of those things; I am counting only the straight figures. Those people will receive an extra $3.56 per week. What can they buy with it? Well, on the supermarket website, I saw that they could buy themselves 2 litres of milk. That is pretty good! If people are on $30,000 per year, they will receive an extra $6.28 per week, and that would get them 2 kilos of apples. The supermarket website shows that people on $38,000 per year could buy a bit more than that. They will receive an extra $9.21, so they will be able to buy a loaf of Vogel’s bread and 2 dozen eggs. They will be able to have poached eggs on toast—fantastic!

If people are on $100,000 per year—let us jump to the other end of the income scale—they will be $41.66 better off a week, without including all the other costs that I have parked. At $120,000 per year, they will be $56 better off a week. On an income of $300,000 a year, which is the average salary of the chief executive officer of a large company, people will receive $178 more a week. Of course, the chief executive officer of Telecom will receive an extra $4,845.44 a week. I did not work out what that would get him at the supermarket, but obviously it would get him quite a lot.

How can that be just—being able to buy toilet paper, versus receiving an extra $4,000-odd a week? How can that be just for those on the lowest incomes, who cannot make ends meet, and who really are struggling? I do not know whether members opposite are talking to their local budgeting advice services, but I have been doing so all around New Zealand in relation to my member’s bill, which deals with the issue of loan sharks. I can tell members that those services know how hard families are struggling. They know that most of the people whom they see have to resort to things like high - interest rate loans. I do not think that this Budget delivers for those New Zealanders, yet they are the New Zealanders who need to be given a helping hand. They need to receive something from the Government.

HughesHon DARREN HUGHES (Labour) Link to this

Part 1 of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill is the “robbing Peter to pay Paul” part. This is the part of the bill where tax rates are changed on the one hand, and on the other hand Government fees, the cost of Government services, and the goods and services tax go up to wipe out all of the gains that most people in New Zealand will receive by way of the first change that the Government is making. The National Government is robbing Peter to pay Paul, and when people work out in a few months’ time that their financial situation has not changed enormously, I think it will rebound on National in quite a big way.

Here is the point. My colleagues have already pointed out that the Budget documents show that inflation will be 6 percent in the coming year. That is hardly a model of economic stability and orthodox management on the part of the National Government. A 6 percent inflation rate will immediately flow through to the cost of living, because higher inflation will erode people’s purchasing power. When people pick goods off the supermarket shelves they will find that prices are higher. When they go through the checkout and get their bill they will find that the taxes on the products they have bought are also higher. So not only will inflation erode the cost of living of people but the GST changes will put a 15 percent fee on the final price of the product.

That is hardly what people thought they were getting when they voted for the National Party at the last election. I do not remember the National Party campaigning at the last election on a policy of increasing GST. John Key, in that complicated way he has of explaining himself, said: “Oh well, I said we wouldn’t put up GST to fund a deficit.” I looked at the Budget documents and in the next financial year we as a country will be in deficit, so GST will be put up at a time when we are in deficit, even though National said first of all that there would be no rise in GST, and we then had the complicated explanation from John Key that in his head he was trying to say that if there was a deficit he would not put up GST. National has failed on that test, as well.

This measure affects hard-working New Zealanders, and that is people who work hard, full stop. Of course, in the eyes of National members one is a hard worker only if one earns a lot of money. We hear all the time from members opposite about hard-working New Zealanders who earn over $100,000 a year. Sure, there are probably some hard-working people who earn over $100,000, but lots of people who earn over $100,000 do not work very hard, and I can see quite a few of them this morning as I look across the Chamber. As I look across the Chamber I see plenty of people who earn over $100,000 whom I would never describe as hard-working New Zealanders.

QuinnPaul Quinn Link to this

Look in the mirror, Darren!

HughesHon DARREN HUGHES Link to this

I would describe Mr Quinn as a loud New Zealander, but from the exchequer’s point of view I would describe him as a rip-off, because we pay $100,000 a year for him, yet for 600 bucks one can get a better sound out of a flat-screen TV. So I do not think we need to waste any time on him.

Let us look at those people who earn over $100,000 a year. The people in New Zealand who earn over $100,000 have had tax cuts for 3 years in a row. In October 2008, people earning over $100,000 a year received a tax cut from the Labour Government. In April 2009, people earning over 100 grand a year got a tax cut from the National Government. Now, in October this year the National Government will give those same people a third tax cut. That is tax cuts for 3 years in a row for the highest-paid New Zealanders. Given that I think most members of the House agree that we have a wages problem rather than a tax problem in New Zealand, it seems to me that giving that 5 percent of people tax cuts for 3 years in a row has hardly resulted in economic nirvana when we look at what the opportunity cost for our country means.

I live in the Horowhenua district, where just over 1 percent of people earn over $100,000. So 99 percent of the people in the community in which I live do not get—

QuinnPaul Quinn Link to this

You’re one of them, paid by the taxpayer as you have been all your life!

HughesHon DARREN HUGHES Link to this

Paul Quinn, that great civic contributor in our country, has made an interjection. Paul Quinn is the man whom I think should be the quietest person. He should get the least amount of money for his contribution in Parliament. If we were paid by value of contribution, that man would be returning money to the taxpayer every week. So let us not hear anything from that rip-off artist in that sense, at all.

In our community we have a problem with the number of hospital beds, because the Government wants to downgrade the number of hospital beds at the Horowhenua Health Centre. The Government says there is not enough money from taxes to fund our health services, yet there is money to give people who earn over $100,000 their third tax cut in 3 years.

The tax system today is radically different from what it was 3 or 4 years ago, because we already have had a reduction in revenue. Now the Government has to try to convince the country why we should have fewer services, higher inflation, and higher interest rates because of that higher inflation, as the Reserve Bank will inevitably have to make changes to compensate for the fact that this Government is putting $15 billion in tax cuts out into the economy over the next period. Then, of course, we have the changes to accident compensation levies and the increase in GST. All these things mean that we are robbing Peter to pay Paul, and from a long-term point of view—looking at the future of our country—the biggest concern is that we are borrowing to give away those tax cuts. This is hardly bold; we are borrowing for it.

WoodhouseMICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National) Link to this

I want to pick up on Ms Beaumont’s analogy of the four-pack of toilet paper and perhaps remind her, in case her memory is a little bit short, about what we saw under 9 years of a Labour Government. Does the member recall Dr Cullen’s “chewing gum Budget”? What happened to the chewing gum? He took it back. In those 9 years he said: “I’m going to give you a pack of chewing gum and then I’m going to take it back.” But we then we had the pièce de résistance: after several days the top tax rate was raised by 9 percent. We waited 9 years, and what did we get? We got a block of cheese.

I want to go through some inconvenient truths for our friends on the other side. Under this Budget 73 percent of income earners will have a top tax rate of just 17.5 percent. That is nearly half what it was under the previous Labour Government. That is not the top income earners but the middle and lower income earners. These people will be far, far better off under this Government than they ever were under the Labour Government. People who earn the average income of $48,000 a year will pay a total tax rate of just 15.3 percent. A family with two children does not start paying income tax until its income exceeds $50,000. [Interruption] The member mentioned GST. I find it astounding that the members Hipkins and Street—the latter has been a Crown Minister and sat around the table considering revenue bills—did not know that GST is not payable on rents. It simply is not. There is no GST on residential rents. Those members both mentioned it in their calls. I think those comments continue the ignorance around the sorts of effects that the tax arbitrage frameworks that Labour put in place, after 9 years, had on hard-working New Zealanders.

Mr Burns talks about continuing the gap between the top personal income tax rate and the company tax rate. That was not the problem. The main problem was the large gap between the top personal income tax rate and the trust rate, because that was the vehicle that top income earners were using to protect their income. The company tax rate is ultimately paid by individuals and they get imputation credits attached to them. Whatever that company tax rate is, their personal income tax rate will be what it is. So the really important gap is the one between the trust rate and the top personal tax rate. I am very pleased to see that that has been lined up.

Mr Cunliffe was very confused about loss attributing qualifying companies, and in an astounding comment he made in his call in the first reading, he said that Labour had put in place loss attributing qualifying companies but Labour had no idea they would be used for the purpose to which they were eventually used. God forbid, loss attribution would be used to attribute losses! That just does not make sense. But it became worse with Dr Norman’s analogy of shoplifting, I think it was. Does any member recall that comment in the first reading? He said that instead of controlling the shoplifting, what National has done is lowered the price of goods and applied a fixed charge across all the goods. But here is the thing: using legitimate tax vehicles to manage one’s income tax liability is not shoplifting; it was perfectly legal, and it was legal because it was put in place by the Labour Government with the full support of the Greens.

But here is what the Greens really want to do: to have equity, what they really want, but do not say, is to put all of the rates up to the top personal tax rate of 38 percent. If we want equity, they say we should raise the trust rate, raise the company rate—raise, raise, raise. Well, that is what will drive our best and brightest New Zealanders across the ditch. That is what has been done over the last few years. It is the one thing we are No. 1 in the OECD on—the export of our best and brightest. I am very impressed to see that, whereas a person needed to earn $228,000 in New Zealand to pay less tax than in Australia, that has just gone down to as low as $55,000. My prediction is that those best and brightest will start coming back across the Ditch. I am absolutely delighted to see that the rot is stopping in respect of those very talented New Zealanders.

I will go on and touch on the tilt, because this Budget has support for what New Zealanders were already doing. The consumption and debt-fuelled growth that we saw after the last 10 years has stopped. People are not borrowing any more.

SepuloniCARMEL SEPULONI (Labour) Link to this

I go back to something that the Hon Lianne Dalziel brought up last night. A taxi driver had pointed out something to her. It was the fact that John Key, with regard to this Budget, was basically saying to New Zealanders: “Let them eat cake. They can’t afford bread, but let them eat cake.” We have heard from Mr Key that he does not value people who are on low incomes. He does not value those who earn the least amount of money, even though they are hard-working New Zealanders. We have heard him say in the House that those people do not contribute because they do not pay tax. Because they get Working for Families, they are not contributing members of our society. He does not value them. Whom does he value? He values those who are just like him, those who are earning high incomes in this country.

BeaumontCarol Beaumont Link to this

Money traders.

SepuloniCARMEL SEPULONI Link to this

Money traders. When we look at what these tax cuts mean for New Zealand, we see that we new backbench MPs will get an extra $120 a fortnight. Quite frankly, when I watched TV last night and saw the struggling family on Tagata Pasifika trying to raise four kids and feed them on $80 a week—to feed a family of six on $80 a week—I felt embarrassed by the fact that our New Zealand Government has just given us a tax cut of $120 a fortnight.

BennettDavid Bennett Link to this

Well, give him your money, then. Give him your money. Let’s see you give your money away, eh? Give your money to them.

SepuloniCARMEL SEPULONI Link to this

Mr David Bennett over there is screaming out because he thinks he deserves an extra $120 a fortnight. His attitude to people who feed a family of six on $80 a week is who cares about them; it is all about him, and making sure that he has an extra $120 a fortnight in his pocket. We on this side of the House are about fairness, and we do not agree with what this Government has done with regard to tax. We do not agree with the fact that the only people who will profit from those tax cuts are the people on high incomes. We have had to sit here and listen to Mr Key and the others on that side of the House say that it is all about rebalancing the economy. Well, actually, there is no balance in these tax cuts, because they are all in favour of the people who already have money, and all they do is make a bigger divide between people in New Zealand—between the haves and the have-nots.

QuinnPaul Quinn Link to this

Get past the rhetoric.

SepuloniCARMEL SEPULONI Link to this

There goes Mr Quinn again, shooting off and yelling out very loudly. He does not care about poor people. He does not care about the people who are struggling to feed their family of six on $80 a week. Mr Quinn does not care. He just wants to make sure that his wallet is better lined.

We have been told by Mr Key—and it has been repeated in the media over and over again—that we should not be envious of those who receive high tax cuts from this Budget. Quite frankly, from all of the things that I have seen in the papers and online, most New Zealanders think that is quite offensive. One person said: “John Key the Overlord says: ‘Don’t be jealous, you poor peasants.’ ” That is basically the impression that the Government is giving. It still relies on the trickle-down effect. National members still think that if they give all the money to the rich people, it will somehow trickle down. But what will it mean? It will not necessarily mean the creation of new jobs. All it will mean is that a millionaire, who is already getting a lot of money, can go on an even more expensive holiday than he or she would have done otherwise. It will not mean that the people he or she employs will get better wages—it will not mean that, at all. All it will mean is that the millionaire will be able to afford to buy another property.

So, quite frankly, this country has a right to be angry at the Government. New Zealanders will realise, as the detail comes out, how this Budget will hurt their families and how it will hurt our country. In the meantime, the Government will have probably a 2 to 3-day honeymoon period over this Budget. But it will not last, because, alongside the tax cuts, New Zealanders will realise that the cuts to early childhood education will affect them, they will realise that the increase in GST will affect them, they will realise that the increase in inflation will affect them, and very quickly they will realise that, actually, these tax cuts mean nothing and they will get nothing extra in their pockets—and, in fact, they will be paying more.

BoscawenJOHN BOSCAWEN (ACT) Link to this

I congratulate Carmel Sepuloni on her speech, because I think she is absolutely right. She said that we may have a honeymoon period for this Budget. Certainly, the commentators are saying that it is a good Budget, and I think that most New Zealanders perceive it to be a good Budget. But she said that people will eventually wake up to the increases in GST, and they will eventually wake up to the increases in accident compensation levies. I have heard the words GST and accident compensation mentioned time and time again over the last 12 hours—time and time again. The tragedy for the Labour Party is that it could actually make that criticism stick if it told the truth. There is another elephant in the room, and it is the emissions trading scheme.

Hon Members

Oh!

BoscawenJOHN BOSCAWEN Link to this

Yes. Let me direct my comments particularly to National. I heard Darren Hughes having a crack at the Minister of Police, Judith Collins, about the proportion of people in her electorate who earn under $40,000. I ask Judith Collins, and the other National members, to look at the 550,000 people in their electorates who earn between $40,000 and $85,000 a year. Page 9 of the Budget 2010 Minister’s Executive Summary, presented by Mr English yesterday, shows that people earning between $40,000 and $85,000 can expect an average increase in income of 0.4 percent—0.4 percent. The Reserve Bank tells us that the emissions trading scheme will increase the cost of living by 0.4 percent from 1 July. So the people earning between $40,000 and $85,000 get absolutely nothing—absolutely nothing.

People listening to this debate on the radio and people watching it on television right now will hear a constant reference to the emissions trading scheme from the ACT Party, and the reason for that is that no other party in this Parliament wants to raise it. So, yes, there has been positive coverage of the Budget, but in my view some of the most interesting coverage came this morning from Paul Henry on television’s Breakfast programme. Paul Henry seems to be the only commentator who picked up on the fact that the emissions trading scheme will add 0.4 percent to the cost of living from 1 July. That will actually reduce the net benefits to people who earn between $40,000 to $85,000 to zero—absolutely zero. I say to members of the National Government that they need to start challenging their Ministers and start challenging their Prime Minister. If those members look at the appropriations, they will see that the allocation of New Zealand units has gone from $139 million worth of units in the last year to over $1 billion—an increase of $900 million.

Carmel Sepuloni can talk about millionaires buying properties—and she may try to create some envy—but I say to her that her criticisms would be far more effective if she acknowledged that the money is going not to the millionaires but to the foresters, not so that they can buy more buildings but so that they can buy more forests. That is it: we have $1 billion—$1 billion—going to people who plant forests. People who planted forests are in two categories. The first category consists of people who planted trees before 1990. If they chop those trees down, harvest them, and do not replant them, they will incur a significant loss of value, but, only, I suspect, if the Kyoto Protocol is extended beyond 2012. The second category consists of those who planted forests from 1990 onwards. They will not harvest those forests until some time in the 2020s. They will be given an allocation of units—officials tell me that it will be something like $700 million worth of units—for trees planted in the early 1990s when there was no expectation of taxpayer subsidies.

I say to Labour members that if they really want to make an impact on this Budget, they should go out there and acknowledge that Labour would have had its own emissions trading scheme from 1 January, and that it would have increased electricity prices by 10 percent. But the world environment has changed, and National can respond to this, because it can suspend the emissions trading scheme. It can leave in place the incentives to ensure that trees planted from 1982-85 are not harvested, so that we can meet our Kyoto Protocol obligations.

ParkerHon DAVID PARKER (Labour) Link to this

I want to comment on what I think is the greatest misrepresentation of this Budget, and that is the myth that it rebalances the New Zealand economy. I will not deal with the issue as to whether the tax switch, as the Government has called it, is the right tax switch or whether it is weighted unfairly to the higher-income earners. I think other speakers have dealt with that well. But I will deal with the myth being pushed by the Minister of Finance that this is the greatest change in tax policy for 20 or 30 years. Plainly, it is not. Plainly, it does not rebalance the economy away from speculative investment in property towards the tradable sector and exports. That is plain from the forecasts that are included in the Budget.

If we look at this Budget we see that it does not redistribute investment between property and the tradable sector; it redistributes the amount of income and consumption tax that is paid by different people in society. It states that, overall, less of those taxes, as a proportion, is paid by high-income earners, and more of them is paid by low and middle income earners. It does very little to change the balance between taxing capital and labour, because it does not do much to tax capital.

Indeed, it is interesting that, in terms of picking up the recommendations of the Tax Working Group, it goes a little way in respect of investment in property. It does not catch the kernel of the problem, which is over-investment in residential property. This Budget could have done that through ring-fencing losses, but instead it has done away with the ability to claim depreciation on buildings, which has as much effect in the commercial property sector as it does in the residential property sector. The Budget does not curb the largest of the problems, which is over-investment in the residential property sector, with people incurring large losses in respect of their mortgages on residential borrowing, which they offset against their other income.

Why can I say with absolute confidence that this Budget has not rebalanced the economy? Because we see it in what happens with the current account deficit. If this Budget was going to improve the current account deficit, we would see the current account deficit going down, but we do not. We actually see the current account deficit going up year on year to 7 percent of GDP. I think that the best commentary on this so far from the commentators has come from Business and Economic Research. Business and Economic Research is not overcome by the somewhat surprising amounts of the Government’s tax switch; it looks at the effects on the fundamentals of the New Zealand economy. Business and Economic Research says—and I think it is right—that at least it is good to see the Minister of Finance acknowledge that New Zealand’s largest single vulnerability is now its large and growing net external liabilities. New Zealand now owes $168 billion, which is about 90 percent of GDP. So, overall, New Zealand’s net asset position in the world is that we owe more than we own. We owe so much that if we total it up and compare it to the size of our economy, we already owe the equivalent of 90 percent of GDP. Under this Budget that situation gets worse, at the equivalent of 7 percent of GDP per annum. So by 2014, New Zealand’s net asset position in the world is that our debt will be 100 percent of GDP.

So if our growth is not coming from export growth, and if we have an increasing current account deficit, as is shown by the projections in this Budget, where is the growth in this economy to pay for the borrowings and to overcome the increase in borrowings that is needed to fund the tax cuts? It is actually coming from internal growth in the property sector. It is not coming from export growth; it is coming from exactly the problems that the Prime Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister said they were trying to overcome in this Budget. It is actually coming from those imbalances in the economy getting worse again. I think the Business and Economic Research analysis of this Budget is very interesting. This is a quote; it states: “If the net external sector is not the lead driver of Treasury’s growth forecast, what is? Our reading indicates the growth forecast relies heavily on a noticeable rebound’’—

CalderDr CAM CALDER (National) Link to this

I compliment the previous speaker, David Parker, on his sartorial elegance. This Budget is the Budget of a Government that is committed to creating a strong economy that is built on and led by sustainable growth and value-added exports, which will underpin jobs and create opportunities for all New Zealanders to realise their hopes, dreams, and aspirations. This is a Budget of a strong and courageous Government that believes in acknowledging and rewarding the pursuit of hard work and excellence. This Government is a perceptive Government. It understands that the positive, can-do attitudes of every New Zealander are our edge in competing and ensuring our country’s future success on the highly competitive global stage.

This Government is a standard-bearer for unlocking the potential that lies within the heart of every New Zealander. We are working relentlessly for every New Zealander to share a sense of purpose and a feeling of belonging. We have no time for the politics of envy. We will not rob Peter to pay Paul. What good is there for any of us if Peter or Petra is a neurosurgeon, a skilled sparky, a committed, effective teacher, a nurturing nurse, or a competent carpenter who decamps to Australia or further afield in pursuit of greener pastures? John Key’s National-led Government is principled and pragmatic, and it believes in creating a brighter future with all New Zealanders, for all New Zealanders, and of all New Zealanders, right here in our homeland of Aotearoa New Zealand.

This Budget, with its across-the-board tax cuts to help families get ahead and more money for education and health, will lift long-term economic growth, responsibly reign in past fiscal profligacy and massive public debt, and encourage better front-line public services. This Government’s resolute decisiveness is a stark contrast to the looseness of the last late, unlamented Labour administration. It was an administration that has turned into a group of loquacious lobbyists whose only concern is legislative languor, listlessness, lassitude, and lethargy. This Government is a stark contrast to that cavilling caucus, where the words “hope”, “enterprise”, and “ambition” are heard as rarely as “Mine’s a Laphroaig” at a temperance conference. However, one must give Labour members their due. In some respects, they were virtual prestidigitators of fiscal policy and conjurors of economic underperformance.

The maladministration of the previous administration managed to parlay the best economic conditions since World War II into year after year of decline in the performance of our tradable sectors—our exports, which are the drivers of our economy. They managed to turn the longest spell of global economic golden weather in modern memory into years of localised thunderstorms, hail, rain, and sleet over the whole of New Zealand. They hamstrung our economy. It is our economy that underpins the quality of life for all New Zealanders. It allows us to educate our young people, to provide world-class medical care for our sick and injured, and to protect the most vulnerable. That dance of the desperate and dateless dispensed fiscal doom and despondency because of blind adherence to a borrow-and-spend dogma. There was a remarkable record of failure by the last Government. I ask how effective Labour’s illiterate economic policies were. They were as effective as a papier mâché demolition ball, a one-legged man dancing the cha-cha, or an empty can of air freshener in an abattoir.

The global economic framework is still fragile and there may be some bumps ahead, but here in New Zealand this Government’s effort over the short time we have held the levers of power has seen the right sort of recovery. It is one that is export led, rather than based on the previous model.

RobertsonGRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central) Link to this

It is always a pleasure to follow on from the president of the North Shore Toastmasters. Members know that they are in trouble when Paul Quinn is nodding and saying: “That’s right.” beside them—it is terrible. Part 1 of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill is about choices and priorities. National made it very, very clear to the country yesterday where its priority lies. Its priority does not lie in looking to the future and having a plan or a strategy. This Budget was given two out of 10 for its strategy yesterday, because no long-term plan is present in it.

Yesterday’s Budget speech by Bill English was remarkable in a number of ways. One of them was the complete absence of any plan for how to grow this economy. There is an obsession with tax cuts delivered to the rich and of avoiding talking about the Government’s plan or strategy. Apparently we have to cut the top tax rate in order to keep people in New Zealand and stop them going to Australia. The message for the National Government is that it is not the tax rates that will send people to Australia; it is the wages and the jobs that need to be created as part of a long-term plan to grow a sustainable economy. Taxes in Australia, and the headline rate of tax there, are only one thing. Under the Kevin Rudd Government, Australia has been planning and investing in skills and training to try to get people into work. This Budget is devoid of a strategy or a plan for the future. It is a short-term-thinking Budget that will not deliver to New Zealanders the increased well-being and the standard of living that we all want.

An obsession with tax and with tax cuts for the wealthy is not a path that will deliver a sustainable economy. The priorities that the Government is putting out here show that, yes, we have to borrow money. What should we use that borrowed money for? Should we use it for tax cuts for the wealthy few, or should we use it to invest in something that will be good for our long-term future, like early childhood education? Why would a Government cut $400 million from early childhood education? Is that not a priority for this Government? That is the message that the public of New Zealand is getting, as 25 percent of the money that is being cut—the so-called low-value spending—is from early childhood education. The message that this Government is sending is that early childhood education is low-priority spending. That message will not be good for the future of New Zealand.

The National Government is doing a “hit and hope” Budget. National is lining up to take its shot—and Mr Woodhouse plays a bit of golf—on the first tee, but it has no idea where the hole is. National is just hitting the ball up in the air to see whether the tax cuts work and deliver growth. There is no real plan or idea of where exactly National wants the ball to go—it is just hitting and hoping. From the international experience we know that tax cuts do not deliver a sustainable economy. Tax cuts will not—

QuinnPaul Quinn Link to this

When you go down the middle, it doesn’t matter.

RobertsonGRANT ROBERTSON Link to this

There is Paul Quinn, John Key’s chief policy adviser, out there, telling us what to do. Tax cuts do not deliver sustainable growth internationally. Sustainable growth comes from investing in people and starting in the earliest years to invest in people. But apparently that is not a priority. Apparently it is OK for early childhood educators to have to run cake stalls in order to buy crayons, but for Paul Reynolds to receive over $1,000 a week in a tax cut. Early childhood education cuts will mean that parents will pay more, or that early childhood education centres will have to fund-raise just to be able to keep going, and at the same time the richest 1 percent of people in our country will receive 15 percent of the value of the tax cuts. That is not fair.

We heard yesterday a whole lot of rhetoric about fairness. There is nothing fair in a Budget that takes away hundreds of millions of dollars from early childhood education and millions of dollars from health and delivers that money to the richest people in New Zealand. That is not a recipe for a fair and equitable New Zealand. That is not a recipe for a country with a long-term plan. This is a short-term Budget that is designed to deliver a bit of money in the pocket that will make people feel good, but the value of that becomes eroded over time with the increased rate of GST. This Budget breaks promises. It breaks the promises around GST increases; it breaks the promises about not cutting public services. This Budget will not deliver a future for New Zealanders that will make people decide to stay here. Where is the work in this Budget around ensuring that we have an economy that brings together the environment and the economy? Where is that? The environment was not actually mentioned in the Budget speech yesterday.

FentonDARIEN FENTON (Labour) Link to this

Mr Chairperson—

QuinnPaul Quinn Link to this

It’s a very nice blue jacket.

FentonDARIEN FENTON Link to this

I thank Mr Quinn for the compliment; I know he will keep it up all the way through my speech.

I am pleased to take a call on Part 1 of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. I will talk also, as my colleague Grant Robertson just did, about the priorities that this Budget has demonstrated. I think that one of the saddest things we saw yesterday—and we will see it as time goes on and we start to examine the Budget in more detail—is that this Government thinks that spending $70 million on building a prison is more of a priority than early childhood education. There is $400 million gone from the funding for early childhood education. Early childhood education gets our children off to the best possible start and invests in our future.

I look at the other priorities, too, and I see that this is a tax cut, a tax swindle, where the richest are getting most of the money. I will talk about Paul Reynolds. He may be feeling a little bit picked on, but he is the “Seven Million Dollar Man”. He is the chief executive of Telecom. What has he done as the chief executive of Telecom? Well, during his tenure he has sacked 12,000 Kiwi workers—that is what he contributed to the New Zealand economy. What is more, they did not get redundancy. But National thinks it needs to keep Paul Reynolds in New Zealand with this huge tax bribe using the money of ordinary working Kiwis. National has given him another $290,000 a year, which is coming from higher GST, higher rent bills, and the hard work of ordinary New Zealanders.

If Paul Reynolds was not getting this tax cut, with that money we could hire six more nurses or six more teachers. We could pay for 400 hours of early childhood education, or 400 workers would not have to pay the added GST bill. When I compare that amount to what someone on minimum wage will be getting, I think it is a disgrace. It is so unfair for $290,000 a week in a tax cut to be going to one of the richest people in New Zealand, when someone on minimum wage on $26,000 will end up with $4.82 a week. That is before accident compensation levies—it is after GST but it is before accident compensation levies—and with petrol going up and 5.9 percent inflation —

SepuloniCarmel Sepuloni Link to this

And childcare.

FentonDARIEN FENTON Link to this

—and childcare, of course. They will end up worse off. In fact, they are already worse off, with the lowest pay increases we have seen in a decade.

One of the things that I spotted in the Budget document yesterday was a miserable little sentence on page 69: “The redundancy tax credit will be removed…”. What are the tax credits for redundancies? It is when people get compensation when through no fault of their own they lose their job, and they get paid a lump sum payment that pushes them into a higher tax bracket. Labour fixed that by making sure that could not happen and that they could apply for a tax rebate to not pay extra tax on their compensation. So not only is this Government kicking low-paid workers but it is also kicking in the guts those workers who lose their jobs through no fault of their own.

HipkinsChris Hipkins Link to this

Kicking them while they are down.

FentonDARIEN FENTON Link to this

Kicking them while they are down through not supporting them getting redundancy compensation; the few who do are made to pay more tax. I think that is incredibly unfair.

The other thing in this Budget is the education cuts. There are huge cuts to education throughout this Budget, and, as my colleagues have said, there is nothing in here about skills development. Where are the skills going to come from if this economy recovers, as the Government says it will? Where will the jobs come from? Where are the job creation packages?

One other little miserable cut that I have noticed is in the Department of Labour, where it has cut the employment-related contestable fund—the education fund for workers and for employers. It has cut that. That is workers’ opportunity to learn how they can make a contribution in the workplace to growing productivity, to productive employment relationships, and to helping grow our economy. I think the problem with this Government is it does not think that people who do the work are part of the economy. It thinks that only big business is part of the economy. Actually, the economy is people doing work, and that is where the changes have to happen: in the workplace with productive employment relationships.

DouglasHon Sir ROGER DOUGLAS (ACT) Link to this

It does not matter what side of the Chamber one is on, the fact is that this Budget to date has gone down particularly well. The next point I make to the Labour Opposition is that there are sound grounds to criticise this Budget, but when members opposite are using any story at all to criticise it, then they do not do themselves any good. Let us take Grant Robinson. He suggested—

DouglasHon Sir ROGER DOUGLAS Link to this

Robertson, sorry, my apologies. He made the point that this Budget was not doing enough in the area of redistribution and wanted more of the sorts of policies that the previous Labour Government followed over the last 9 years. I remind the member that during that period of time New Zealand workers probably lost, relative to Australian workers, about $100 in wages. Our wages over the last 30 or 40 years, relative to Australian wages, have dropped by $300 to $400 in relative terms. It is about time we had policy to deal with that.

The only Opposition speaker I have heard come close to criticising this Budget on a sound basis was David Parker. I thought he made some points we should take up. He pointed to the risks that relate to the high level of overseas borrowing that New Zealand has already, and the fact that it will expand, and I thought that was a criticism worth making.

I think the Minister in the chair, Peter Dunne, and the Minister of Finance, given what they have proposed, have done a pretty good job on the tax package. I personally have some problem with it. I believe that the 12.5 percent tax rate should not have gone down to 10.5 percent. I think they should have rounded the rates to 30 percent, rather than having the discrepancy that they will have with 28 percent for companies and 33 percent for the personal tax rate. I think the Minister in the chair, if he could have done that, may well have wanted to do that.

My main criticism, however, is in the area of GST. I do not believe it was necessary to raise GST. It would have meant, of course, that the Government would have had to make some tough decisions in the expenditure field. But if we look through the Budget, there is about $2.5 billion there that I would classify as corporate welfare—a lot of it unnecessary. That is about double the net benefit from GST. If we look at Government expenditure, this Budget is providing for a 9 percent increase in Government spending. It is just about as bad as Labour used to do during its time in office. Frankly, 9 percent increases in Government expenditure, year on year, are totally unsustainable. We have seen Government expenditure increase by approximately $6 billion, or 9 percent, and that is four times the rate of inflation.

I grant that the Minister would probably point out to me that 2 percent of that 9 percent is compensation for GST, and I accept that, but it is still an increase in Government expenditure at three times the rate of inflation. Had we not had to increase GST, instead of someone on $40,000 getting $10 a week, that person would have received $23 a week, and instead of a $500 benefit he or she would have received a $1,300 benefit a year. Instead of someone on $52,000 receiving $745 a year, that person would have received over $1,600 in benefit—in other words, a $31 benefit per week rather than $14. But the die has been cast. I think in future the Government will have to pay a lot more attention to Government expenditure, particularly the Government expenditure that is not returning to the nation as much as it would have returned had it been left in the private sector.

MallardHon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) Link to this

That speech was a bit rich coming from that member, Sir Roger Douglas. He talked about the gap opening up between Australia and New Zealand. When did that gap open up? It was when his policies and those of his acolytes, especially Ruth Richardson, were biting. It was at the very end of the 1980s and through the 1990s that that gap opened up, and it was when his policies and his approach were at their height. It was especially in the early 1990s, when Ruth Richardson was implementing the things that Roger Douglas wanted to do but was not allowed to. That is when the gap opened up between New Zealand and Australia, and he should take some responsibility for it, rather than trying to develop again the policies that would make it worse.

“Rip Van Winkle” went to sleep for about a decade, and when he woke up he found that unemployment was down, he found that early childhood education was working well, and he found that Working for Families meant that a number of families that had been below the poverty line were now above the poverty line. He woke up and said that he did not like it, and that there was not enough pressure on the poor. He wanted to put some more pressure on the poor. That was the approach of Sir Roger Douglas when he woke up from his decade of sleep away from the political world.

This is a disgraceful Budget. I invite people to have a very good look at the table on page A2 of today’s Dominion Post. Forget the headline; look at the numbers. I ask people to think carefully about what happens when we apply 5.9 percent instead of 2.2 percent.

UpstonLouise Upston Link to this

What about the headline? It’s a great headline.

MallardHon TREVOR MALLARD Link to this

The member wants someone to read her the headline. The member for Taupō would like someone to read her the headline in the paper. I will do better than that. I will tell her that people on $120,000—

QuinnPaul Quinn Link to this

That’s Trevor Mallard.

MallardHon TREVOR MALLARD Link to this

No, I am on significantly more than that, I say to Mr Quinn.

UpstonLouise Upston Link to this

How much more, Trevor?

MallardHon TREVOR MALLARD Link to this

Enough—that is the answer to that. When we apply 5.9 percent instead of 2 percent—because 5.9 percent will be the inflation rate—people who are on $120,000 a year are no better off. They are no better off at $120,000 a year when we apply the 5.9 percent inflation rate that Treasury says will happen. What does that mean? That is a cut-off point. What does that mean? Does that mean all the people below are better off? No, it does not. It means all the people below are worse off. So every family in New Zealand earning $120,000 or less is going to be poorer in 12 months than they are now.

I ask members opposite how they will feel about that in November or August next year when they go to the election and we have the chance of inflation being higher than it has been at any time since Roger Douglas was the Minister of Finance. There is no debate about it; they are Treasury figures. It has never been so close. Roger Douglas has the record for inflation in recent times in New Zealand and it will not be broken. We will not get to Sir Roger’s level, but it will be the highest level of inflation since the mid-1980s—since GST first came in—at 5.9 percent, which is slightly more than double the rate of inflation that the Government inherited, and with unemployment at about three times the level that it was. I ask members opposite what they will think about that and how they will explain to their constituents that they have done a big tax deal but their constituents will be worse off.

ShearerDAVID SHEARER (Labour—Mt Albert) Link to this

I want to touch on a point that was brought up by Michael Woodhouse about the differential between Australia and New Zealand: the fact that our taxes have gone down will somehow attract back here, in floods, people from Australia. The reality is, I say to Mr Woodhouse, that in Australia GST is at 10 percent, not at 15 percent, and if he thinks that people will come running back for the 3 or 4 or 5 dollars they have got as a result of this Budget, he should think again. Inflation is at 6 percent, and the Government has not factored in accident compensation levies going up, the tobacco tax, the power price rises, and—for people unfortunate enough to live in Auckland—the funding of the debacle that is the super-city. Nobody will be killed in the rush of people coming through Auckland Airport back from Australia. They will come back for better wages when we lift our productivity, but this Budget does not do anything to lift our productivity.

The way we lift productivity is to encourage companies to invest and to be innovative. Look at what Australia has done in innovation in the past year. It has increased its research and development spend by 25 percent. It upped its tax credits for innovative companies by giving a tax credit of 40 percent. What did the Government here do for innovation in this Budget? I am really pleased the Minister of Research, Science and Technology is here in the Chamber to hear this. This part of the Budget was announced early because of its importance, according to the Prime Minister. It increased our Budget in research and development by $56 million a year. Most of that goes into grants and vouchers to business.

So what do businesses have to do? They have to get on their hands and knees and go to the Government to say: “Please give me a grant for R and D.” And a bureaucrat sits there and says yes to this person and no to that person. Who benefits? Not the small innovative companies that are out there. I happen to believe—[Interruption]—I say to Mr Mapp that those people who put their butts on the line, who mortgage their houses, and who borrow from their friends and their family in order to get a good idea out there to market deserve a break. That is what the Labour Government did in its term of office. It gave them a 15 percent tax credit. Under this Government, businesses have to go on their knees to a bureaucrat who will assess their case and then possibly give them a grant at that point. Imagine the bureaucracy, the transaction costs, and the sheer frustration of small companies having to go through that ordeal. Our business research and development is one-third of the OECD average. What does this Government do to lift that? It is zip, zero. It increases the State contribution to research and development by 3 percent but it does not do anything to our business research and development shift.

ShearerDAVID SHEARER Link to this

If the tax credit is put back, I say to Mr Mapp, if the Government acknowledges that that is the best way to do things, we would have doubled the research and development in business that businesses are doing. This is the biggest scam for businesses and it really upsets me. John Walley said that this Budget’s contribution to research and development is a pale shadow of what the former Government put in place. It is not only that, it is half of what the Labour Government had in place, and it is also half of what that Government promised in 2008. So after all the “good news” around announcing this early, it is ultimately only half of what it promised in 2008 it was going to contribute. It is another broken promise, I say to Mr Mapp. He must sit there and feel dreadfully uncomfortable about the fact that he has given only half of what he promised.

TureiMETIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader—Green) Link to this

This part of the bill deals with the tax cuts that will significantly benefit the rich and leave the poorest of our most vulnerable families, and particularly their children, with the least. It is considered by this Government to be fair that the children of the wealthiest families get more than the children of the most vulnerable and poor. National calls that progress and it calls that fair; the Greens call it a national disgrace. There are alternatives, of course. These tax cuts do not have to be so utterly regressive that our poorest children will suffer the most; they could be progressive tax cuts. I would like to outline a proposal that the Green Party presented on Monday in our Mind the Gap package, which is a set of solutions designed precisely to deal with the rising gap between rich and poor in terms of inequality and income disparity, which is one of the most significant social and economic problems in this country—and a growing problem in this country.

One of our proposals is that there should be a tax-free band of $10,000 whereby all people who earn income, including beneficiaries, would not pay tax on the first $10,000 of their income. That is a truly fair and truly progressive personal tax cut option. It is a choice that John Key could have made, which would make a significant difference to the children of the poorest families. We know that the children of the poorest families in New Zealand go without. It is not because their parents do not care; it is because there simply is not enough money. Children go without shoes, raincoats, breakfast, lunch, school trips, and after-school programmes. Those children go without their basic rights to good health and a good education. Some members on the National side of the Chamber who believe in the deserving poor charity model might suggest that those people go to budgeting services. In fact, that is what Paula Bennett suggests as part of her reforms in social welfare. But there is no budgeting advice in the world that can make up the difference if there is simply not enough money to care for the needs of those children. The children who are in the worst poverty require more support.

The choice, which John Key could have made but did not make, of providing a tax-free band of $10,000 would provide—we estimate, without Government resources—something like $15 or $17 a week in the back pockets of every earner. That means that every person would receive the same amount, which is fair in the context of a progressive tax. But because $15 or $17 is proportionately much more significant for those on $10,000 a year, as opposed to those on $150,000 a year, it is a fairer tax cut for the country, for earners, and for the children who are the most disadvantaged. This measure, I say again, was a choice that this Government could have made. It is a cheaper tax cut option than National’s package. It does not cost $4.5 billion; it costs around $3 billion. Any kind of tax cut that is imposed will cost the country money. There will always be a question of whom we choose to benefit the most from any tax cut. The Green Party would choose families who are on the lowest incomes. The Green Party would choose children who are living in the worst poverty. We would choose them to benefit the most from a personal tax cut. But this Government did not do that. This Government chose instead to benefit the most wealthy, some of our highest-income earners, by thousands of dollars a week, while those on the lowest incomes are arguably much worst off than they were previously.

At a best estimate, someone who earns $10,000 a year might get 85c a week. That is a very best, generous estimate. But why should the families who are on the very lowest incomes, and the children who suffer from the worst possible poverty in this country, be the ones who pay? Why should they be the ones who subsidise the wealthy? Why should they be the ones who enable the most wealthy New Zealanders to get thousands of dollars a week in their back pocket, when they got nothing? There is no justification for that. John Key’s Government is increasing inequality in this country.

BeaumontCarol Beaumont Link to this

That’s right. Continuing to increase it.

TureiMETIRIA TUREI Link to this

John Key’s Government is continuing to increase inequality, widening the gap between the rich and the poor.

TureiMETIRIA TUREI Link to this

He is sucking the resources—deliberately, I agree—out of our families, away from our children. The children who go to school without shoes and raincoats and proper food are the children who are paying for John Key’s tax cuts.

BoscawenJOHN BOSCAWEN (ACT) Link to this

We often have banter in the Chamber, and when members with the call pick up on the comments of other members, it is recorded in Hansard. One particular comment was made this morning that was not picked up in Hansard, but I think it is very important that it goes on the record. My colleague Sir Roger Douglas said that no matter what one thought of the Budget, the reality is that the media are reporting it in a good light. If I heard correctly, I heard Steve Chadwick say: “Wait and see.” I think that Steve Chadwick is absolutely right, just like I think her colleague Carmel Sepuloni is right. She said that all the hype will die down in 2 or 3 days and then people will be faced with reality. People will not have to wait until 1 October for the increase in GST, because the cost of living is going up from 1 July. That is when the emissions trading scheme is coming in, that is when Treasury has forecast that electricity will go up by 5 percent per year, and that is when Treasury has forecast that petrol will go up by 4c a litre.

We are debating Part 1 of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill today. This part increases the rate of GST. Trevor Mallard proudly got up and showed to the Committee the increases in GST that people will pay on various incomes. My message this morning is to National members. Steve Chadwick is absolutely right when she says: “Wait and see.” There is no reference to the impact of the emissions trading scheme in people’s average incomes.

I come back to page 9 of the Budget document. We have just heard from the co-leader of the Green Party, who said that this is actually a subsidy from the poor to the rich. Well, I say to Metiria Turei that at least those people earning less than $40,000 a year get something. The Budget talks about an increase of 0.7 percent, and they will have to give back only 0.4 percent. So although they will not get much, at least they will get something. But we should look also at the big group of people in the income bracket of $40,000 to $85,000. The Budget forecasts here in black and white that they stand to get a net 0.4 percent out of it. Treasury forecasts that that whole benefit will be wiped out by the emissions trading scheme. It is no wonder that members of the National Party’s grassroots are revolting against the emissions trading scheme. It is no wonder that a resolution was put at the central North Island conference of the National Party last week calling on the Prime Minister and the Minister of Finance to suspend the emissions trading scheme. It is no wonder that the Tāmaki electorate, where I live—Allan Peachey is my local MP—have a remit before the National Party’s Auckland conference in a fortnight’s time.

I say to Labour that Steve Chadwick is right and that Carmel Sepuloni is right. But Labour members should get out and criticise the emissions trading scheme. They talk about inflation of 5.9 percent. They should go out and tell the people that electricity is forecast to go up by 5 percent. They should go out and tell people that the price of petrol will go up. People will see those things soon. Carmel Sepuloni is right: people will not be fooled for ever. I say to members of the National Party that people will see it a lot earlier than some people think they might.

I will explain to Louise Upston—who represents the electorate of Taupō, which is an area that has huge amounts of forestry—why GST is going up. Well, the reason it is going up is that there is an allocation of an extra $1 billion to people who planted trees in the 1990s and early 2000s, and also in the 1970s and 1980s. Those people planted trees and are now retrospectively being given over $1 billion of credits for those trees. It is a tragedy because there is no guarantee that the Kyoto Protocol will be extended. There is no guarantee that New Zealand will have any commitment beyond 2012.

In this measure we have a wealth transfer. It is not necessarily to rich people; it is to people who planted trees in the 1990s and early 2000s without any expectation of this massive subsidy. Although the National MPs in this House may want to put their heads in the sand, the members of National Party are not dumb. They see it, Paul Henry on Breakfast this morning sees it, and Steve Chadwick sees it. She says that we should wait and see. Time will tell, and people will realise that there is no net gain to them. Yes, there is redistribution.

CarterHon CHRIS CARTER (Labour—Te Atatū) Link to this

I rise in the Committee in an unusual circumstance, in that I agree with John Boscawen. It is not often that I do that, but I certainly agree with the comments he just made about this Budget.

MackeyMoana Mackey Link to this

Not on the ETS.

CarterHon CHRIS CARTER Link to this

Not all of it, but most of it.

Essentially, this Budget is a fraud. It is a fraud because it is about transferring wealth from the poorest New Zealanders to the richest. You know, one of the myths of this country, perpetuated by conservative politicians led by John Key, is that somehow we are an overtaxed country. It is a case of “Never let the facts stand in the way of a good story.” The reality is that in the OECD New Zealand has the third-lowest rate of personal taxation among developed countries. Where will this transfer of wealth impact? It will impact on the delivery of services in this country.

National and its coalition partners are saying that for having $90 in the pocket of a rich New Zealander, we will third-rate social services and Government services. Education is an excellent example. Four-hundred million dollars has been taken out of early childhood education. How will that cut impact? It is saying to early childhood education centres, where they have qualified teachers, that it does not matter who is working with those children and it does not matter how well educated or how lacking in skills the teachers are. The Government is saying that that does not count.

As a former teacher and as a former Minister of Education, I know that a child’s education journey—his or her success in education—begins with quality early childhood education. One of the great crocodile tears presented by the current National Government is about underachievement in our country. It is about the tail of unsuccessful students in our schools, the 18 to 20 percent. Actually, that is the standard percentage in all developed countries, but we will not explore that.

How will this Budget help them? In Manukau City 23 percent of children at the moment go to early childhood education, and that might include one afternoon at the local church, so there is very variable quality, but 23 percent of new entrants going into primary schools have been to early childhood education. The statistics from Manukau City and the failure of many students there in their educational achievement rests on that poor basis. How will a cut to early childhood education of $400 million—the $400 million being taken out of early childhood education to pay for tax cuts for the richest New Zealanders—impact on underachievement in our schools? It will make it worse, not better, and the same is true with the so-called 4 percent operations grant that has gone into schools. Actually, with the GST rise and the projected 5.9 percent inflation rate, schools are effectively getting a cut. They will get less in their operations grant than they currently have, because of the changed economic circumstances.

So the nonsense we heard yesterday from Mr Key—that there is an increase in funding for education—is just that. It is a fraud. Schools will have fewer resources to spend on lifting educational achievement in New Zealand. I wonder how the Māori Party will address that question, because it will impact particularly on those students who figure largely in our underachievement statistics—that is, Māori and Pasifika children. The very kids we want to lift up are being disadvantaged because wealthy New Zealanders are getting a tax cut.

I read in the media the other day that this tax cut and the changes in our tax system will take $16 billion out of the New Zealand economy over the next 4 years. We are currently borrowing $250 million a week to bridge the deficit. We are borrowing while at the same time we are cutting $16 billion out of our Government’s resources. What madness! Can members imagine any other developed country doing that? Why is it happening? Because National is catering to the constituency that put it into power.

The swing voters in the middle will see over the next year—and I think my colleague Steve Chadwick from Rotorua talked about this—what these cuts actually mean. The New Zealand Herald, I think, this morning referred to it as a thousand little cuts. Well, it could be a death by a thousand cuts. I ask members to go into the education system to see what cuts are being made there.

O'ConnorHon DAMIEN O’CONNOR (Labour) Link to this

This Budget is a disgrace. It is a very dumb Budget if one wants to run a smart economy. It is a regressive Budget if one wants to run a progressive economy. I will quote from Bill English something that most people in this Parliament would accept: “This lacklustre performance from the export sector lies at the heart of our growing vulnerability.” I ask what this Budget did for the export sector and for the primary drivers of that sector, the farmers and horticulturalists. Well, not once in the Budget statement did Bill English, whose brother is the chief executive officer of Federated Farmers, mention agriculture or horticulture—not once. In fact, he made only a brief reference to exports or exporters. So how will this Budget grow our economy?

We should look at a few reports on our economy, because we would see that there are some challenges going ahead. We accept that we need to have better performance from the export sector. New Zealand’s largest single vulnerability is now the large and growing net external liabilities. But having identified this vulnerability, what does this Budget do about it? Well, to quote Bill: “Very, very little.” If we do not grow our earnings, no amount of shuffling around of tax rates and tax benefits will get us out of the hole we are in, because we need to be driven by greater exports up and down this country.

Not once was agriculture mentioned. That is a disgrace. But worse than that, if we had a productive sector wanting to invest in higher levels of productivity, new technology, and better machinery, the Government cut the depreciation allowance right out from under its feet—right out from under its feet. I was talking with one of the largest exporters in this country less than 2 weeks ago. He said we needed a higher level of depreciation allowance for new plant and equipment to lift the level of productivity in this country. John Key has said a lot about productivity, but he thinks productivity is paying less to workers to give more to the people at the top. Well, he did that, I guess—I guess he did that in the Budget. Yes, he has given crumbs to the people at the bottom and given a bigger slice of the cake to the very wealthy of this country. That is immoral. It is absolutely immoral, and it is dumb, dumb thinking if we are trying to develop a smart economy.

People will be packing their bags and going to Australia, because no amount of tinkering with the tax rates will make up for the huge gap between what we can pay workers in this country and what Australia can pay workers, and its higher savings rate, and its better superannuation benefits. But what did this Budget do to address that? Nothing—absolutely nothing. It is a pathetic Budget from a mean Government that does not understand the terms “fair” or “equitable”. It has driven this economy further behind. There is nothing for the export sector and nothing for the farmers. In fact, if there were farmers earning over $70,000 a year, they might have benefited more. But Federated Farmers, reluctant as they may be to criticise the Government, admitted that very few farmers pay tax. So they will face higher levels of GST. I say to them that if they are bleating about the emissions trading scheme’s cost to their business, they should sit down and do a calculation about the increased cost from the rise in GST. It is about time they did that, and Connor English should get off his chuff as a chief executive, challenge his brother, and say: “You, Mr English, my brother, have imposed huge costs on the farming and export sector and offered us nothing by way of your Budget.” They do not have a vision—

GoodhewJo Goodhew Link to this

Look at what your emissions trading scheme has done to farmers.

O'ConnorHon DAMIEN O’CONNOR Link to this

Neither does that member from Timaru. She will find that the people who drive her local economy will be absolutely disappointed with this pathetic Budget, except if they earn over $70,000 per year. If one earns over $70,000 per year, one has the highest level of tax cuts. That member, Jo Goodhew, will be happy, because she earns over $70,000 per year. So does the person beside her, Chris Auchinvole. This is a pathetic Budget for the export sector.

HipkinsCHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka) Link to this

I am looking forward to the contributions from the Māori Party to this debate. Driving home last night, I had to stop for petrol. The Māori woman behind the counter asked me “Is the Māori Party really going to vote to increase GST for me? Is it really going to vote to increase my GST? I have checked it out on the website and I do not get much of a tax cut. I am on a reasonably low income. I am working behind the counter at a petrol station.” She told me that she had voted for the Māori Party and that she was pretty surprised that, given all of its rhetoric before the election, its members were now coming into this House to vote in favour of increasing GST.

She had seen Hone Harawira’s comments in the paper yesterday. I told her not to worry, because I knew that Hone Harawira was a man of great courage. I do not think Hone Harawira would ever say outside Parliament something that he was not willing to come down and stand eyeball to eyeball with the National Government to say in this Chamber. I think he has a lot of courage and he will come down, he will be in the Chamber, he will take a call, he will speak against a rise in GST, and then he will cross the floor and vote against it. I do not think Hone Harawira would be a lion out in public and then be a pussycat curled up in John Key’s lap here in the House. I do not think Hone Harawira would do that. I look forward to his joining us in the Noes lobby when it comes time to vote against this increase in GST, which will hit Māori particularly hard.

The people in my electorate ask me what is in this Budget for them. I say to them that for the 69 percent of people in my electorate who earn under $40,000 a year the answer is not very much. Most of the people who earn under $40,000 a year, according to the tax table that was produced with the Budget, will get less than 25 bucks a week in their tax cut. They will pay at least another 13 bucks a week in increased GST, so that is less than 10 bucks a week in the pocket. If they have children in early childhood education, they will be looking at about another 25 bucks a week per child for early childhood education. They will be worse off. If they are superannuitants who have had their home help cut, they will be worse off. If they are tertiary students who now have to pay extra on their student loans, they will be worse off. Even worse, if they want to be tertiary students but find they cannot get into a university or a polytechnic, they will be worse off. They may get an extra 10 bucks a week—that is if they are at the highest end of that 70 percent who earn under $40,000. If they are on that $40,000 mark, they will get about $9.94 a week according to Bill English. But for those people down at the bottom end, at the minimum wage level, who earn around $28,000 a year it is about five bucks a week. That is worth about two or three packets of chewing gum to the people on the lowest incomes. The tax cuts from the National Government are certainly not enough for a block of cheese or even half a block of cheese for those people on the lowest incomes. National is interested only in those who are at the top of the heap.

I am really looking forward to hearing the contributions from the Māori Party members, who campaigned before the election about removing GST from food altogether. I am looking forward to hearing their justification for voting in favour of a 2.5 percent increase in GST—hiking up the food and grocery prices for every working family in New Zealand. And it will not be just food and grocery prices that will be going up, either; it will be rates, insurance, and all the other services that will go up as a result of the extra 2.5 percent on GST, which will go up to 15 percent. It is a tax swindle, not a tax switch, as the Government has talked about.

The hollow rhetoric from the hollow men in the National Government is simply misleading. It shows that their promises before the election were simply a hoax. They promised that everyone could have a tax cut, that they would not increase borrowing to pay for it, and that they would not cut public services. Well, they are giving tax cuts to the people on the highest incomes while those on the lowest incomes face a tax increase through higher GST. They are increasing borrowing and cutting spending on public services. They are cutting spending on health. They are not allowing health spending to keep up with the growing population or the growing demand. Health spending will not keep up with the demands of an ageing population, so people will be paying more.

I heard Ganesh Nana from Business and Economic Research Ltd on Radio New Zealand National this morning saying that in the short term this Budget is affordable but in the long term the tax cuts the Government has delivered are not affordable. The National Government is mortgaging up the nation’s children and grandchildren to pay for the tax cuts it is dishing out today.

NashSTUART NASH (Labour) Link to this

I heard the most amazing thing in the Chamber when my colleague the Hon Damien O’Connor was speaking a few moments ago. He asked what this Government had done to increase the growth of this economy, and Dr Wayne Mapp, who is the Minister of Research, Science and Technology, said it had cut taxes. That was what the Minister of Research, Science and Technology said about how to grow the economy. He said the Government had cut personal taxes. My colleague David Shearer stood up here and asked what had happened to the funding for research and development, which we need in order to drive the economy forward. The best answer that the Minister could come up with was to cut personal taxes.

I can picture National Ministers sitting around the Cabinet table and Bill English asking what the Government could do to drive the economy. Dr Wayne Mapp would have had his head down, and Bill English would have asked Dr Mapp what he thought the Government should do to drive economic growth. His reply would have been that National should cut personal taxes. Why did he not stand up and say the research and development spend needed to be increased, or that we should at least go back to what Labour did? Did he stand up and say that? Did he stand up and fight for those companies in this country that require research and development funding in order to drive this economy forward? That is what is needed. We have the smart men and women of this country saying we need to invest in research and development and develop a high-class, highly educated economy. We need companies that can take things to the global market. The Government has done nothing about that. It has cut research and development spending to half of what Labour provided. It is one of the more ridiculous things that I have heard in this House, and I think it is a crying shame. Quite frankly, it astounds me, because I really thought Dr Mapp was better than that.

I would like to talk about another thing that astounds me—

FossCraig Foss Link to this

Satisfaction!

NashSTUART NASH Link to this

—because we cannot get any satisfaction from this Budget. The vast majority of Kiwis have got no satisfaction. A speaker stood in this Chamber and talked about the shameful Dr Cullen. I will not hear a bad word said about that man in this Chamber. Do members know why? It is because under his management we halved gross Crown debt, and when he left office there was no debt. Dr Cullen had to listen to John Key and Don Brash baying for tax cuts. They said New Zealanders must have tax cuts. If Dr Cullen had listened to them, then we would be in the same situation as Greece. Dr Cullen paid down debt. In fact, the Governor of the Reserve Bank, in his latest Financial Stability Report, said the reason that the New Zealand economy is doing as well as it has in this recession is the state that Dr Cullen left the books in. He did brilliantly, and his legacy is sound.

This Government is destroying Dr Cullen’s legacy. Dr Cullen refused to borrow for tax cuts. Dr Cullen knew that an economy has to be managed prudently. He knew that tax cuts are inflationary. I will tell members one thing that Dr Cullen never did: he never looked at the camera and said he would not increase tax, then increased tax. That is what John Key did. He stood in front of the camera, in front of every New Zealander, and said he would not increase GST. Well, he has done that; he has increased GST. He also said he would not borrow in order to fund tax cuts. Well, he has done that.

I turn to clause 45 of this bill, which deals with increasing the rate of GST. The GST rate is increasing from 12.5 percent to 15 percent, so one assumes that everything will increase by 2.5 percent. I have news from this side of the Chamber: that will not happen, and I will give members an example of why it will not. Retailers price things with psychological considerations in mind. That is why we pay $49.95, not $50, for goods. The GST increase on that amount means that the price should go up to $51.06, but no retailer will price anything at $51.06. The next level is actually $54.95, which is a 10 percent increase. This also comes back to the poll done in the New Zealand Herald where 33 percent of small to medium sized businesses—

TureiMETIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader—Green) Link to this

It is a shame that we do not have the pleasure of John Boscawen’s company. In his earlier contribution he said that those on the very lowest incomes should be terribly grateful that they got 85c or some such in the Budget, because they could have got nothing. He is quite right. John Key’s Government had a choice about who would benefit the most from this Budget and who would benefit the most from the personal tax cuts in the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. His decision was that those on the lowest incomes would not benefit the most, and certainly that we should not have a progressive and fair tax system or progressive and fair tax cuts in this Budget. John Key’s choice was that the richest people in this country—the richest New Zealanders—should benefit the most. We certainly see that that is the case. Of course, John Key could have chosen differently, but he did not. He has chosen to increase the gap between rich and poor.

Earlier I talked about an alternative—and I see that John Boscawen is now here—to this tax cut regime that would be progressive and fair, which is having a zero tax rate for the first $10,000 of income earned. I mention in relation to that alternative that not only is it progressive, fair, and cheaper than the current tax cuts proposed in this Budget and in this bill, but also it is used in many other OECD countries. In Australia the zero tax threshold is $16,000, in Canada it is $10,000, in France it is $5,600, and in Germany it is $7,800. We certainly would not be leading the charge on a tax-free band of income that is progressive and benefits those on the lowest incomes. Of course, in those countries too they have much higher tax rates at the top. In Australia, for example, there is a 45 percent tax rate for those who earn over $180,000. So it is a more progressive system of tax than we have here.

One of the other provisions in this part of the bill is the increase in GST. That is an additional regressive tax on top of the regressive personal tax cuts that are being proposed. The increase in GST is not fair, because it will hurt the poor more. We know that those on the lowest percentile or 10th percentile pay 14 percent of their income in GST, and those on the very top percentile pay only 4 percent. So proportionally those on the very bottom percentile will pay more GST in proportion to their income than those at the very top. Therefore any increase in GST is grossly unfair.

That is why the Green Party continues to propose the much fairer system of a capital gains tax, excluding the family home. In the long term that system would return some $4.5 billion to the income sector. It would also broaden the tax base across the community and provide significant incentives for a shift in investment away from the property sector into more productive investments. The John Key Government says it wants to do that, but it has done nothing to make sure that it happens. It has no kind of strategy to ensure a genuine shift of productive investment away from a property boom into more productive areas.

The Government had another choice with tax cuts, whereby people on the lowest incomes could benefit. Inequality is one of the bigger issues that this country faces. The Greens released the Mind the Gap package on Monday, and in it we proposed that the in-work payment, which replaced the child tax credit and applies only to some families, should be extended to apply to families at the very bottom of the income sector. Those families are beneficiary families; 140,000 families do not qualify for the in-work payment because they are beneficiaries or they do not meet the working hours criteria. The children in those families live in the worst poverty in this country. Some 200,000 children live in the worst poverty and they are the children of these families. Why are these children suffering just because John Key wants to put thousands of dollars in the back pockets of some very, very rich people?

It would cost around $300 million a year to extend this payment, so there is a cost.

PillayLYNNE PILLAY (Labour) Link to this

First, I commend Metiria Turei for a great speech. I totally agree with all the points that were raised. We all know on this side of the Chamber—

MappHon Dr Wayne Mapp Link to this

When is Labour going to start to decrease the deficit? It didn’t do it in 9 years.

PillayLYNNE PILLAY Link to this

I hear Wayne Mapp and see that he is feeling embarrassed about this tax swindle, which is based on total self-interest. How do we know that these tax cuts are based on self-interest? We know because the big winners are the people who earn high incomes. The tax cuts are for the privileged few. They are really, really unfair.

If we look at people on low incomes, those who need tax cuts the most, we see that they are hit by the rise in GST. That is very unfair in terms of the distribution and liability on people on low incomes. The effect on them is very disproportionate. Then there are the tax cuts. If we look at people on low incomes—those on 20 grand or 40 grand a year; people with families—we see that they get next to nothing out of the tax cuts, yet this Government is borrowing big time and cutting public services in order to fund them.

When we look at people on high incomes like those that members of Parliament are privileged enough to earn, we see that is where the big gains are. If we look at even higher incomes, the tax cuts are so much higher. That action has been taken by a Government led by a Prime Minister who categorically said that National would not raise GST. I ask Mr Mapp whether that is correct, because he is not interjecting very much now. Did John Key say that National would not raise GST—yes or no? Did John Key say that? The members opposite know very, very well that John Key said that, but it has all changed. That promise was broken so that one-third of the tax cuts goes to the top 5 percent of income earners. The top 1 percent of earners will get 15 percent of the tax cuts—15 percent of the tax cuts goes to the top 1 percent of earners.

Does that sit alongside the funding that was reintroduced by the Government, such as the big funding boost for private schools? That was done at the cost of the most disabled children in New Zealand. We know there has been some increase in funding for disabilities, but when we look at it we see that the Budget has a paltry amount for people living with disabilities. If we compare that funding with the extra $1.4 billion, we see a big hole in health spending. That is what this Budget is about. This Budget is about a great big hole in health spending because a huge amount is going in tax cuts to the wealthy in New Zealand. Members on this side think that that is grossly unfair. It is actually immoral.

Where else do we see casualties?

ChadwickHon Steve Chadwick Link to this

Casualties in State housing.

PillayLYNNE PILLAY Link to this

I ask my colleague, who has been a strong advocate for State housing for our most vulnerable families, whether it is correct that $18 million—

PillayLYNNE PILLAY Link to this

How much has been cut?

FentonDarien Fenton Link to this

Nearly $100 million has been cut from housing.

PillayLYNNE PILLAY Link to this

Nearly $100 million has been cut from housing, and that is by a Government that says that it cares about people. We all know that one of the key things that families need is safe and affordable housing. We know that in cutting that area the real casualties will be the families most in need in New Zealand.

Let us talk about early childhood education. When Labour brought in its early childhood policies the National Opposition vehemently opposed them. In this Budget the Government did not have the guts to cut the funding, but by stealth it is cutting away all of that really good investment. Those building blocks for our children’s future are being cut. It is absolutely reprehensible that the members of this Government will take money away from families, from children, and from those who need it most in order to fund tax cuts for themselves.

BeaumontCAROL BEAUMONT (Labour) Link to this

One of the most annoying things I have heard in this debate so far is that every time members on this side—Green or Labour—outline the absolute unfairness of the tax changes that are being made by the Government, we have levelled at us that our comments are about the politics of envy. I can only conclude that the reason that little Crosby/Textor line, no doubt, about the politics of envy is being trotted out is that those members know that what we are saying is true. They know that the small tax cuts that people on low and middle incomes will get will be completely offset by increases in GST and other inflationary pressures.

That is unfair. How just is it that those on the lowest incomes, who cannot make ends meet at the moment, will get a paltry increase in income, while those with more than enough will get huge increases? How just is that? How just is it that they will face significantly higher costs as a result of inflation peaking at 5.9 percent, which will wipe out their tax cuts? How just is that? How just are these changes, when they follow on from the previous unfair tax cuts made by this Government? In the electorate of Maungakiekie, where I am working, 64 percent of people earn $40,000 or less, and they received no tax cut in 2009 or 2010. Now they will get a paltry tax cut, which will be offset by increased costs. How just and how fair is that? Members opposite can call my comments the politics of envy if they like, but they know that that position is not fair.

I want to talk about the economy. The rhetoric of the Budget—and we heard it leading up to the Budget, and we hear it in the Budget-speak—is all about rebalancing the economy. The Government says that we will have a smart economy, and that it values education. Actually, the only measure to appear in the Budget is the waving of the magic wand of tax cuts. Suddenly, the economy will be rebalanced! Suddenly, there will be the growth in productivity that there is a lot of rhetoric about! There is a lot of rhetoric about lifting productivity. Nobody in this House would disagree about the need to lift productivity, but talking about it is not sufficient. Where is the investment in people? What is going on in terms of tertiary education funding is social and economic vandalism.

I will talk particularly about investment in people who are already in the workplace. There are further cuts to adult and community education, which will affect those who want second-chance learning. Where is the money for industry training? Where is the money that would actually lift us in terms of the technical skills we need? We have a structural skills problem in New Zealand. Where are the initiatives in the Budget to deal with that? I ask that somebody opposite stands up and answers that question. Eighty percent of the people who will be in the workplace in 10 years’ time are already in the workplace, so to change our skills deficit we cannot just invest in people entering the workforce; the Government also has to focus on investing in those who are already in the workforce. People who, in their own time, want a second chance at education through adult and community education are out of luck in many parts of New Zealand, and I am sure that position will get worse. What about those who want to learn when they are in the workplace? Where is the extra funding for that kind of learning? There is a lot of talk about productivity, but without the skills to change how work is undertaken, without the skills to implement and utilise new strategies and new technology, we will not go forward as a country.

When we look at the reduced increase in funding for research and development, the complete absence of initiatives in terms of skills, and the absolutely minuscule funding for tertiary education, we have to ask ourselves how serious the Government is about lifting productivity. The answer, I am afraid to say, is it is not serious at all. Cutting taxes will not lift productivity. Other measures have to be taken. There have to be economic development strategies. There needs to be investment in our people. I would have really appreciated seeing some effort put in that area, but, no, there has been none.

TureiMETIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader—Green) Link to this

I will briefly refer to the corporate tax rate, which is being cut in Part 1 of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. We know that the corporate tax rate will go from 30 to 28 percent. We also know that this Government has an intention to continue its approach concerning alignment, and I wonder whether—we have heard nothing, as far as I am aware, from the Government at this stage—the Government, in fact, intends to eventually bring the top tax rate down to 28 percent. If it is truly committed to alignment, that is obviously what it will do next. The question is whether it would do that in an election year—which would be the next Budget—or afterwards. Will the Government tell New Zealanders that it intends to not only lower the top tax rate by 5 percent in this Budget, which is twice as much as the tax rate has been lowered for those on the lowest incomes, but that it intends to give those on the very top incomes another tax cut in the very near future to 28 percent—the corporate rate?

That discussion has not been raised yet in the debate on the corporate tax rate, as far as I am aware. It is of serious concern if it is the intention of the Government to continue to lower the top tax rate, because the burden and the cost of that will be borne by those at the very bottom. They will pay, and continue to pay, not only for the corporate tax rate, whether in GST increases or in some other form, but also for increasing cuts to the top tax rate.

I referred earlier to one of the other choices that this Government had to reduce the gap between rich and poor, income disparity, and inequality in Aotearoa. I described the alternative that we had proposed in Mind the Gap regarding the in-work tax credit. I follow that up by saying that if the in-work tax credit were extended to those who are on benefits and those who are not working and who currently do not meet the hours criteria for paid employment, we would see $60 a week in disposable income going to 130,000 of the poorest New Zealand families who have up to three children. The 10,000 poorest New Zealand families who have four or more dependent children would benefit even more. It is about benefiting and supporting our children, the children who need the most because they are the most vulnerable and the poorest.

Part of it is also about housing. There are clauses in the bill that deal with housing. What is obvious, and my colleague from Labour talked about this earlier, is that this Government has cut provision for the building of new State houses. It has cut at least $100 million from the State housing budget such that there will be no upgrades and no building of new State homes. That is a disgrace. We have 10,000 families on the State house waiting list. All that is happening is that those families are churning around through the existing State housing. Some come out and try to get into private rental housing; some go back into State housing. The waiting list has continued to churn. This Government is doing nothing to provide housing—homes—for our most vulnerable families. Those are families who are desperate just for somewhere to live. Instead, we have two or three families crowded into private rentals that are expensive, cold, and damp. That is causing $1 billion worth of health problems from cold, damp, overcrowded housing. Yet this Government will give thousands of dollars in cash to the richest people while families are desperate for just somewhere to live.

This is the Aotearoa that we have now—an unequal country where those families who need somewhere to live have nowhere, because this Government will not build houses and invest in those families. This Government will spend $10 billion on new motorways, which are holiday highways for their friends, but they will not spend money on homes for our families who need it the most and for our children who are in the worst poverty—the 200,000 children who live in the worst poverty in this country and the poorest families who are in desperate need. This Government does not even see those people. They are invisible to this Government. They do not know them, they do not see them, they do not care.

DunneHon PETER DUNNE (Minister of Revenue) Link to this

I take a brief call to respond to some of the points just made by the member who has resumed her seat, Metiria Turei. She asked whether some dastardly plan was afoot to align the personal and corporate tax rates at 28c at some point in the future. I disillusion her by saying that there are no present plans to move in that direction. The Government’s medium-term intention remains the alignment of rates, but, frankly, that will occur as fiscal circumstances permit. If one looks at the Budget tables and the Budget figures, one sees that there will not be a rapid path in the direction that she fears and that others would welcome.

I come to the real point that lies behind the issue. As the Tax Working Group disclosed, the big issue was the discrepancy between the top personal rate and the trust rate, because over the last decade, since the Labour Government in 1999 hiked that top rate, we have seen a massive explosion in the use of trusts.

MackeyMoana Mackey Link to this

We campaigned on that and were honest about it.

DunneHon PETER DUNNE Link to this

I acknowledge that Labour campaigned on it, but it was the most stupid and inept tax decision made in the last decade. It has created a massive explosion in the use of trusts, not for property protection reasons, but for income sheltering reasons. That explosion has cost revenue and has cost the taxpayers of New Zealand around $300 million a year in revenue forgone. Over the period of the decade, that was about $2.7 billion. If Metiria Turei wants to talk about having a tax-free threshold, which is extremely expensive, she should just bear in mind that she would have been able to achieve that, had we not had that leakage over the last decade. The point that needs to be made is that by aligning the rates in terms of the trusts and the top personal rate, as is set out in the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill, we will actually secure revenue for the future that can be used to give funding to some of the dreams that members might have.

I will talk about the in-work tax credit. I am in the unusual position of having been part of the previous Government when the Working for Families scheme was being developed. One of the things that was critical there, and members opposite have quite rightly campaigned on it, was that that Government wanted a difference between the level of support provided to people who were in work and to those who were not—hence the title, the in-work payment. If we were to extend the in-work payment to those who were not in work, we would actually defeat the whole purpose of what Working for Families was about. The title was deliberately chosen; it was about families who were in work and struggling to make ends meet, and about giving them a boost. Extending it across the field simply broadens the welfare net. I give credit to the previous Government for not including that idea in the original thinking. I think that point detracts from the member’s argument.

The other thing I mention was that the hoary old chestnut of the capital gains tax was wheeled out by the Greens as part of their Mind the Gap package—I thought that was a railway term from the United Kingdom, but never mind. The reality is that a capital gains tax in New Zealand would add hugely to compliance costs, would not be fair, and would not raise the revenue that is supposed to be attached to it. Over a long period of time it might, but it is a simplistic argument to say that we should have a comprehensive capital gains tax, exempt the family home, and all the revenue that will flow will allow nirvana to be created in this nation. It simply does not work that way.

I am delighted that we have rejected the notion of a capital gains tax; I think it is time to bury the idea once and for all. It has been floated over the last 20 years, and no Government has ever picked it up, because whenever a Government has looked at the reality of what it would actually mean, it has worked out that it would be worth far less than the trouble, the disruption, and the chaos it would create. It is far better to move to an alignment of rates, far better to smooth out some of the discrepancies that are there at the moment, and far better to deal with some of the abuses that we will talk about in later parts of this bill—which are distorting investment patterns and creating biases in the economy—than to impose what would be the ultimate of envy taxes. That is where that policy becomes a complete failure and a nonsense.

As I conclude, I acknowledge that this debate may have a little bit longer to run, but I say that it has been a good, constructive debate today, and I congratulate all of the members who have participated. I disagree profoundly with many of the things that have been said, but I think there has been a good airing of the issues. Let us hope that we can continue in this spirit.

MackeyMOANA MACKEY (Labour) Link to this

I thank the Minister in the chair, the Minister of Revenue, for taking a call. You know, it is interesting that the Minister was responding to the Green member Metiria Turei. Well, she talked about people and about the impact of this Government on people. With the greatest of respect to Government members, I have been noticing that they are not talking about people. They like to talk about the taxation system, but they do not like to talk about how that system works for the people of New Zealand, because these changes will not work for the people of New Zealand. The Minister said the Government may be looking at making a further alignment of tax rates, as fiscal circumstances permit. Well, fiscal circumstances do not permit the changes that are happening in this Budget and in this legislation. In fact, we have a hole of half a billion dollars coming from a Government that promised not to borrow in order to fund tax cuts. Members on this side of the House would argue that fiscal circumstances do not permit these changes to be made, so why should we have any confidence that the Government will wait for fiscal circumstances to permit further changes to be made?

The Minister of Revenue also mentioned the revenue windfall that will come from the alignment of the trust rate and the personal income tax rate. Well, if there is to be such a windfall, why are we increasing GST? Why do we need to increase GST when the changes to the income tax rates, by the way, as an unintended consequence happen to deliver a $1,000 a week tax cut to someone who is on a million dollars a year? Why are we doing that if we have to raise GST? Clearly, the revenue windfall will not be as great as the Minister and the Government would have us believe, because we have to load a tax increase on to the poorest families in New Zealand, which John Key promised before the election that he would not do.

MappHon Dr Wayne Mapp Link to this

We’re moving away from the decrepit, old, wretched ways of Labour.

MackeyMOANA MACKEY Link to this

Dr Wayne Mapp has been sitting here throughout this entire debate and chipping away. Instead of sitting there like a dried arrangement, why does he not get on his pins and take a call? Instead of chipping away, why does he not take a call? This is the Minister of Research, Science and Technology who has gutted the funding for research, science, and technology. He has not been a good advocate for that sector, and that has continued in this Budget. Less than half the money that was in place when Labour left office is now in place, and he expects scientists to be happy about that.

FossCraig Foss Link to this

I take offence at the reference to his pins.

MackeyMOANA MACKEY Link to this

Craig Foss takes offence that I called them—

FossCraig Foss Link to this

Can we table his pins?

MackeyMOANA MACKEY Link to this

I say to Mr Foss that he can table Dr Mapp’s pins if he would like to; I will leave that entirely up to him.

This legislation puts in place the tax swindle that is Budget 2010. It is based on three main broken promises. One is that the Government swore black and blue before the election that it would not increase GST. Less than 18 months later we are passing legislation that will raise the rate of GST by 20 percent. That is a broken promise. Secondly, National swore black and blue that it would not borrow in order to fund tax cuts. We are putting in place legislation today that borrows in order to fund tax cuts. That is broken promise No. 2. Broken promise No. 3 is that no one will be worse off. Well, by the Government and Treasury’s own figures, someone who is on the average wage will be $30 a week worse off under this regime, when we factor in the GST increase and the effects of inflation. Is it not interesting that the Government’s tax calculator, which it had up on Treasury’s website, factored in inflation at less than 2 percent, when the Budget documents said it will be 5.9 percent? What kind of swindle is it that the Government’s own tax calculator is deliberately producing misleading figures in order to make—

MappHon Dr Wayne Mapp Link to this

No, you’re misleading—

MackeyMOANA MACKEY Link to this

I ask Dr Mapp not to point at me. He should stop sitting there like a dried arrangement and get up and make a speech, instead of doing it from the comfort of his chair. He has not bothered to get up to explain to scientists in this country why he has slashed their funding since coming into Government and becoming their Minister.

Do members know that a number of scientists were laid off at the Institute of Environmental Science and Research this week? Why? It is because of health cuts and cuts in the budget that that Minister oversees. Scientists in the health science area are some of the better-paid scientists in New Zealand. The Minister says that scientists are rich. I think he needs to go out and talk to them, because the Prime Minister included scientists in the list of people who are rich in this country, along with nurses—and the Nurses Organisation had something to say about that—and teachers. I suggest that he goes and talks to some of them, instead of sitting in his chair and chipping away.

I will have a lot more to say about housing in my Budget debate speech, as well. When we look at how it is being paid for, we see that the Government, which went on and on about how it would be great for State house tenants, has made a $100 million cut relating to the procurement and building—

ShearerDAVID SHEARER (Labour—Mt Albert) Link to this

I want to take another call in the debate on Part 1 of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. Basically, Tracy Watkins has it pretty much right: the Budget is an “Old-fashioned vote-winner”. It is not really about increasing our productive economy, and it is not really about trying to grow our economy; it is really about the Government getting back into power in 2011.

There is a lot of positive talk out there about the tax cuts and how much they will bring in. I believe that over the next few days, as we start to unpick what the Budget really means, we will get to the real core of what it means—that, in effect, the small amount of money that people on the average wage will get in their hands will be chipped away by GST, by power prices, by accident compensation, by tobacco tax, and by increased rates, if one happens to live in Auckland, to pay for the super-city structure. On top of that, there have been the lowest wage increases in a decade. When the combination of those facts sinks in, people will start to understand that the Budget, as we have been saying today, is an enormous swindle, and it will leave a bitter taste in people’s mouths.

What I want to talk about is what the tax cuts mean in terms of our productive economy. Let us take a look across the Tasman, as this Government always wants to do, and see what the Australians are doing. They will decrease their company tax rate down to 28 percent, like New Zealand is doing. We have got the jump on them, as the Government says. But companies in Australia pay superannuation contributions of 9 percent to 12 percent. Let us think about how much money in that economy—how much savings—is available for the productive sector to reinvest in the economy. What has been done here in New Zealand? The Government has dropped the employer superannuation contribution from 4 percent down to 2 percent. Our savings are woeful. In Australia people understand that increasing their savings, increasing their capital to be able to invest into their productive economy, is the way forward.

Australia has given a 40 percent tax credit to its innovative companies—a 40 percent tax credit. So a company in Australia that invests in innovation gets 40 percent of its tax back for its efforts. We used to have a tax credit, and it would have doubled our business research and development. Instead, we have the State subsidising our companies. The State, which cannot afford to do so at the moment, is subsidising our companies. On top of that, we have a farcical scheme called Primary Growth Partnership. Thirty million dollars was supposed to go into the Primary Growth Partnership in 2009-10. How much has gone out of the scheme? About $3 million went to greenhouse gas research. The rest of it has delivered nothing. So 18 months after the Government axed the Fast Forward Fund, which transferred $700 million into productive research, what do we have? We have nothing—zip, zero—going out of the Primary Growth Partnership. For 18 months, during which our scientists, in combination with business, could have been investing in our productive economy, they have not received a thing. What has happened as a result? I will tell members. Thirty-six staff from AgResearch’s wool and meat sector have been laid off. That used to be a productive enterprise. Under this Government, it will no longer be a productive enterprise. We have lost 12 to 15 people from the Institute of Environmental Science and Research. We have seen today that the Budget’s reprioritisations, as the Government is calling them, will move money out of environmental research and out of heath research, and a bunch of good policies will be cut as a result.

GoodhewJO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) Link to this

I move, That the question be now put.

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A party vote was called for on the question,

That the question be now put.

Ayes 66

Noes 50

Motion agreed to.

TischThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) Link to this

Before I put the question on Part 1, there are four amendments to Part 1 in the name of the Hon David Cunliffe. The three amendments to clause 45 are not in order, as the Minister has issued a financial veto certificate in respect of each of them. These certificates are on the Table.

The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon David Cunliffe to the cross-heading above clause 44 be agreed to:

to omit “to Goods and Services Tax Act 1985” and substitute “designed to Increase Goods and Services Tax”.

A party vote was called for on the question,

That the amendment be agreed to.

Ayes 50

Noes 66

Amendment not agreed to.

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