Hon RODNEY HIDE (Minister of Local Government) Link to this
I move, That the Local Government (Tamaki Makaurau Reorganisation) Amendment Bill, the Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill, and the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Bill be now read a third time. These three bills are the result of the division of the Local Government (Auckland Law Reform) Bill in the Committee of the whole House. Their purpose is to complete the legislative framework that will deliver one council, one mayor, and one vision for Auckland by 1 November 2010.
I do not need to remind the House that the Auckland region’s governance arrangements have been a cause of concern for the best part of a century. Michael Joseph Savage recognised the problem back in 1919, and called for a unification of the region’s disparate and ineffective councils. The Royal Commission on Auckland Governance agreed, and found that Auckland’s eight councils lacked the collective sense of purpose, constitutional ability, and momentum to address issues effectively for the overall good of Auckland. Aucklanders have had too many missed opportunities, and important decisions affecting the lives and the well-being of our largest population base have been delayed or not made at all. Services are poor and cost more than is necessary. Councils across Auckland cannot agree on, or apply, consistent standards and plans.
But this will be no more. Today is the day that Auckland ratepayers, at long last, get to win. The new Auckland Council will be more effective, more accountable, and will provide world-class service to its residents. Why? The new Auckland Council will have a single vision under a single leader, who will make decisions regionally, plan strategically, and act decisively in Auckland’s interests. I ask members to imagine one vision for the waterfront, one vision for the motorway system, one long-term council community plan, one spatial plan, one district plan, one rating system, one rates bill, one council, one mayor—one Auckland.
On 1 November, day one, Auckland’s potential will begin to be realised. Working with the Auckland Council’s mayor will be 20 councillors elected across Auckland’s 13 new wards, which will guarantee a spread of councillors from across the region. There will also be 21 local boards making decisions on local issues, activities, and facilities, and working as part of a structure that will be unique in New Zealand to ensure that community interests are properly represented. Local boards will have their own decision-making responsibility for local matters while the council will take responsibility for the wider picture on regional matters, and addresses the need for grassroots decision-making and accountability. There will be no more endless disagreements about the location and funding of regional amenities and the provision of necessary infrastructure. Auckland’s traffic woes will now be dealt with by a single body. There will be no more costly duplication of functions across eight rating authorities, seven district plans, and a multitude of different by-laws.
A full third of the submissions to the royal commission expressed real anger, despair, and frustration over the regulatory red tape and the cost of complying with different district and rural plans across the region—it was a process that was blocking development. The focus will be on lowering fees and costs and simplifying the paperwork under a single district plan. I can confidently say that ratepayers can now expect efficiency gains in the years ahead from integrated long-term planning and decision-making. The intent is to make Auckland the most exciting, vibrant metropolitan centre in Australasia. Auckland can become No. 1 in the Mercer world cities rankings.
But what people also care about is the cost. The Auckland Council’s cost will not only be lower but also it will have better customer service. There are a bewildering number of fee categories across the region. I take dogs as an example. There are 60 categories in Auckland for registering, impounding, and adopting dogs. There will now be half that number, with charges dropped to the lowest levels. Building inspections, which are currently charged at an hourly rate varying from $110 to $178, will drop to $110 across the region. That is real money being saved. What about resource consent forms? I ask members to imagine this: there are over 850 forms used by councils at present, and that will be reduced to just 120 simplified forms. This will improve consistency across the region, and the consent application fee will be the same wherever one lives.
There will also be a single building control authority delivering standardised control policy and acceptance criteria, which, again, will produce a consistent review and application process. There will be full service centres operational on day one in central Auckland, Takapuna, Henderson, and Manukau, and they will be supplemented by local service centres at Ōrewa, Waiheke Island, Papakura, and Pukekohe. There will also be neighbourhood service centres at Warkworth, Huapai, Helensville, Great Barrier Island, and Waiuku, with more to follow.
Starting numbers will fall, and a fat and flabby upper management structure will be streamlined, thereby creating a smaller and tighter top management team to drive the necessary improvement and consistency across the region. Front-line staff members, however, will not be reduced. Fears about the powers of the council-controlled organisations, or CCOs, have been removed. Council-controlled organisations in Auckland will now be the most accountable of any council in the country. They will have boards appointed by the Auckland Council, which may also dismiss the directors. The Auckland Council determines the policy and appoints a board to ensure that its wishes are carried out. If those wishes are not carried out, it can sack the lot. Furthermore, there is no impediment to the Auckland Council disestablishing any of the council-controlled organisations, except for Auckland Transport, which is the only statutory entity. All council-controlled organisations will now be required to have two board meetings open to the public. The public can participate in these board meetings and speak directly to board members. I thank George Hawkins for his amendment in respect of those provisions. Those meetings will concern the council-controlled organisation’s statement of intent and whether it has achieved its goals during the preceding financial year. The council can increase that number if it so desires, but there will always be that two-meeting minimum guarantee.
We know that the people of Auckland want their rates to be kept low. We know that they fear having a lack of local community involvement in local democracy. We know that they are looking for an improved transport system, and they will get it on 1 November. Aucklanders can now go to the polls in October to elect their mayor, their councillors, and their local board members, without any central government interference. They can do so confident in the knowledge that the new Auckland Council will have the tools to take the vision forward. It will be a united, prosperous, and dynamic region of which all New Zealanders can be proud.
I thank all of those who have helped to make this possible, but there is someone special to thank, and that is Mr Mark Ford, who has led the transition in Auckland, in the Auckland Transition Agency. I believe that all Aucklanders, now and in future, owe that man a huge debt for the job and the work that he has done. I think that we are very, very lucky to have a man of his calibre and ability heading the transition team. I am pleased to say that he is in the House for this important day, for the passage of the third readings of this legislation. I commend this legislation to the House.
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS (Labour—Manurewa) Link to this
Talofa lava. This day has not taken as long to come as many would have thought. But if we go back to the findings of the Royal Commission on Auckland Governance, we see that the Government has acted very quickly. It never had time to gather any dust. There was no referendum for the people of Auckland, as had been promised. What was most surprising was that there was no direct representation for Māori. There was a dust-up—a very public dust-up—between Dr Sharples and Rodney Hide, with John Key, the Prime Minister, intervening. It turned out that from then on, Māori people did not really think that they would have an opportunity to be well represented. It turned out that the squabble or fight between Dr Sharples and Rodney Hide—
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS Link to this
Well, if the member wants to extend my time, I am happy to go on even further. There was a fight between Dr Sharples and Rodney Hide. Rodney Hide turned Dr Sharples upside down on his head and dropped him, as is his wont from time to time. From then on, the Māori Party lost its way a wee bit, and I think that is really sad.
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS Link to this
Because it will not have any representation. On 1 November a lot of people will see what will largely be an all-white council. They will also see a lot of families where the workers and income earners for a family lose their jobs. Fewer people will be working for local government in Auckland. Many people see that as a good thing, but each time, a family is involved.
On the other hand, we do not need eight chief executive officers. At the moment there are eight chief executive officers, and we have to look back to see what happened in the past. Waitakere City Council had a chief executive officer a few years ago who collected $700,000 in redundancy as he walked out of the door. I ask what will happen with this measure. With redundancy—[Interruption] Well, my brother does not lose his job, like that member did in the past—from this House. I remind him of that. That chief executive officer probably collected 3 months’ redundancy, but the average worker will not be getting the over $1 million that some of those chief executives will walk away with. It takes the average worker in my electorate, who is on $40,000, 25 years to earn that amount of money. It would take the media a mere eight phone calls to find out how much is going out of ratepayers’ purses and wallets to pay for the redundancy of those people. I have to say that that is a pity.
One of the interesting things about this legislation has been the level of debate from members of the public making submissions. These people have been very good. They have planned, they have worked away, and they have presented to the Auckland Governance Committee. Some of them were very nervous but they were all very passionate. When people are very passionate, they expect their MPs—
Hon Maurice WilliamsonHon GEORGE HAWKINS Link to this
Well, the member might have trouble sleeping, but if he closes his eyes as well as his mouth, he will do well.
These people want Aucklanders to represent them, and what has happened? Where have all the National members speaking up about this legislation been? John Key has not taken part in this debate. Judith Collins—the strong, silent type—found that it was easier to walk away and say nothing. People like Paula Bennett and Allan Peachey have not contributed, yet people look to their local representatives to get stuck in. I acknowledge that Pansy Wong and Maurice Williamson had something to say. It was not on the big, important issue, but on a little side issue. That is the work of a local MP, and I acknowledge that, but here was an opportunity for people to get up and explain why the National coalition Government was so intent on making changes. When that happens, people feel that they have been well treated. The polls show that people do not feel that they have been well treated. They do not feel that at all. They think that they have been cast aside.
I thank the Minister of Local Government for adopting my amendment to open up the council-controlled organisations to more public scrutiny. One thing I learnt when I was mayor was that people like to be able to come and have their say. They like to be able to talk through issues. Auckland will lose seven mayors and the chair of the regional council. People will not be able to see our new mayor as easily as they have seen our mayors in the past. The mayor will become far more remote. Given that much of the council’s work will be done by council-controlled organisations, and 75 percent of the council’s spending will go to those council-controlled organisations, it is important that people have the opportunity to go along a couple of times a year and not only listen in to what is going on but have their say. That is the really important thing: to have their say. That was one of the things that the National coalition Government missed out on. It did not appreciate that people want to be participants. They want to be involved. We have a Government that had forgotten that. I thank Minister Rodney Hide for realising that was a shortcoming and being prepared to take on board the amendment.
People can sometimes be difficult to deal with; they may be pests. I think of Penny Bright from time to time, who goes along to meetings. People shrink in their seats because they feel like “Here she goes again!”. But I remind the House that she found out that Metro Water was giving the Auckland Regional Council $25 million a year in charity payments. People like Penny Bright really make a difference.
I will talk about the people of Rodney, who have not really accepted what is happening. People like Bill Townsend are very, very passionate. He thinks that the Government will, at the last moment, allow Rodney to stay outside the super-city. Unfortunately, that will not happen for Bill Townsend and his followers. But they will carry on petitioning and having meetings, as they feel they have been dragged into Auckland.
It is a pity that so many people are not rejoicing at the fact that we could have one prosperous city rather than seven local councils they know so well. I think at this time of Sir Barry Curtis, who so passionately built Manukau. I do not want to see what he built disappear. My plea to the new council is to take on board the things that Barry Curtis and Bob Harvey felt passionate about, that made the westies different. I think that is very, very important. I hope this legislation works well, but I sometimes have my doubts.
Hon TAU HENARE (National) Link to this
First of all, I will thank a few people. I thank the Mayor of Waitakere City, Bob Harvey, for his diligent service over the last 8 years; Penny Hulse, the Deputy Mayor of Waitakere City; Assid Corban, the former Mayor of Waitakere City; Councillor Linda Cooper; Councillor Warren Flaunty from the Massey Community Board; and three people whom I think the whole of Te Atatū should applaud for their hard work in our community: Elizabeth Grimmer, Leo Nobilo, and Bob Stanic. I thank Andrew Williams and Len Brown for their sterling efforts in their own cities. I also thank members of the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee, the staff of the committee, and the departmental officials, who, I believe, have done more than a sterling job in getting us to where we are now.
We are limited only by our lack of unity and lack of vision. I stand in the Committee and say that I, for one, will vote for John Banks at the first election, because he is a man of vision. He is not worried about pandering to something that he is not, like some other mayors in the great city of Auckland. In fact, I will hold a breakfast for John Banks, and I tell members that there will be hundreds and hundreds of people in West Auckland lining up at the RSA in Te Atatū just to listen to “Banksie”, because he has a vision.
Hon David CunliffeWhat a silly question! The Hon David Cunliffe asks whether he is coming to the breakfast. I would have thought that a man who is after the top Labour job would have something better to say than that. So I now leave that job to somebody else.
The thing I like about the new organisation of Auckland is that the local boards actually have to get together, set out a plan, put that plan and the budget together, and send it off to the council. The councillors do not just say yes or no; the councillors and the mayor have to enter into a contract about the budget and the plan. I think that contract is very forward-thinking. In the past Auckland has not been able to get to grips with itself because there have been four little fiefdoms. South Aucklanders have been the poor cousins of everybody else in the city—the poor people living out in South Auckland. I was born and bred in Ōtara—in fact, I was born in Onehunga, and 6 months later, we were shipped off to the new suburb of Ōtara. It was always the case that South Aucklanders got the rest while the others had the best. Out in west Auckland, for the past 25 years, we formed an identity, so to speak. That will not go on 1 November; there will still be people living out in west Auckland. No one in Auckland will have an identity crisis. The North Shore will still be the North Shore, over the Auckland Harbour Bridge. South Auckland will still be down Great South Road. What will change is that it will now be about economic growth for Auckland, for the North Island, and for New Zealand. I am reminded of Shakespeare, when he wrote—
Hon Maryan StreetI am not sure—Part 1? I digress. As I have said many times in this House, I only did fifth-form history. These changes are for Auckland, the North Island, and New Zealand. If any members in their right mind are thinking we are through the recession, I say we are not. There is a long way to go, and there are steps we must take to get this country back on track again. We did the first thing, which was to get rid of that lot over there, the previous Government. In Te Atatū, 42 percent of the party vote went to National, which is quite cool. It is about unity and vision.
It is a walk in the park of Auckland, that great city, which will lead the economic revival of this country. Decisions that should have been made 40 years ago were put on the back-burner. I heard George Hawkins talk about Barry Curtis. Let us go even further back, to Mayor Robbie, when the vision of light rail in Auckland never came to fruition, because there were too many people in our scattered city who were worrying about their own backyards, their own fiefdoms, and their own little power struggles. At the end of the day, if Mayor Robbie had been the mayor of one Auckland, we would have had a decent public transport system. We would have had that.
Regardless of whether the man was Labour, National, or whatever, he would have been mayor of a united Auckland, rather than what we have had for the past 150 years.
Whenever it was. This legislation is about getting rid of the old patch protection. It is about getting rid of the old fiefdoms. I think that 1 November 2010 will signal a day when Auckland’s potential will be released and New Zealand’s potential will be realised. I am certain that we cannot have national economic recovery without Auckland. Auckland is central to the nation’s path to economic revitalisation.
I again thank all those councillors and mayors, and the people who have served on our local community boards. Their time may be up, but let us look at this as an opportunity to take Auckland, the North Island, and New Zealand ahead.
PHIL TWYFORD (Labour) Link to this
I want to make some acknowledgments in this speech. I acknowledge the people of Auckland. I acknowledge the people who turned up to public meetings all over the city, in places as diverse as Pukekohe, Warkworth, Wellsford, Kūmeu, New Lynn, Waitakere, Papakura, Grey Lynn, Mount Albert, Milford, and Birkenhead—have I missed any out? There were dozens of public meetings over the last year and a half. I acknowledge the thousands of people—I think 3,000 Aucklanders—who submitted to the royal commission, and the more than 1,000 people who made submissions to the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee on the second and third bills. I acknowledge the 10,000 people who took part and voted in the people’s referendum, which was put on by the Our Auckland campaign group, 97 percent of whom said they rejected the Government’s super-city model. I acknowledge the 8,000 Aucklanders who marched down Queen Street in the hīkoi, demanding a democratic Auckland and guaranteed representation for Māori on the new council.
All of these people, all of these Aucklanders, asked for a democratic super-city to be set up that would look after their communities and give them a voice in the future of the city. They were told by this Government that they were scaremongering. They were told repeatedly that the Government was listening to them and that it would put the “local” back into local government. John Carter said on many occasions in the select committee that the Government was listening and it would do what they wanted. He said that the Government was going to give local boards real powers and make the council-controlled organisations accountable.
Well, what do you know; the final outcome is every bit as bad as people feared and suspected a year ago. The Government has not heard. It has listened, but it has not heard. Sure, in these bills that are about to be passed into law we have seen a number of minor concessions. The fundamental provisions in the bill have been tweaked in an attempt to convey the impression that this Government has heard the people of Auckland, but it has not. I say to the Government that having a couple of public meetings and publishing a brochure is not accountability and transparency as we know it in our system of Government. It is more like public relations. When Mr Hide says that he will consult mayors and the people of Auckland about the people he is appointing to the directorships of the council-controlled organisations he should forgive the people of Auckland for being cynical, because for the last 18 months they have had direct experience of Mr Hide’s definition of consultation.
Allowing the council to appoint the chair and the deputy chair is not accountability as we know it in our system of government. These things are just tweakings; they are minor adjustments around the edges. The Government has not altered the fundamental course that it chartered when it brought this bill to the House for the first time. It has insisted on going ahead with its corporatisation agenda, which will consign three-quarters of the city’s assets and operations to the control of handpicked appointees. It is fundamentally shifting accountability and control of civic life in Auckland out of the public domain and into the boardroom. Aucklanders made it very clear that they did not want a bar of that. This Government has not listened and it has continued with its agenda.
For the last 12 months the people of Auckland have demanded that the voice of local communities be preserved in the super-city. They have asked that the powers of local boards be enshrined in legislation to guarantee that local boards have real decision-making powers. For the last 8 months the Government has been promising that it would heed those requests. It has not. It has gone ahead and retained the framework it put in place with the second super-city Act and it has created 21 toothless talk shops instead.
I want to talk about who should be held accountable and who should be held responsible for these changes. It is very interesting to see that the Prime Minister has kept a very low profile in relation to this issue in recent times. We have not seen him front up alongside the Minister of Local Government, but let us make no mistake about it; the Prime Minister is cheek by jowl with Rodney Hide on this effort. The Prime Minister and Cabinet have signed off every single piece of this reform agenda. National is responsible to its boots for what it has done to Auckland. The people of Auckland will hold it responsible.
The Minister of Local Government is an easy target. He is an easy target because of his extremist ideology and because of his status as a fallen perk-buster. That makes him a convenient whipping boy for everybody who wants to find whoever is responsible for what this Government is doing to Auckland and hold them accountable. But John Key and his Cabinet have signed off every single thing and they will be held accountable by the people of Auckland for this assault on our democracy, for the weakening of our public institutions, and for the contracting out of local government to hand-picked appointees. All of this must be laid squarely at the feet of this National Government.
Next, I want to talk about the issue of costs. What sticks in the craw of Aucklanders more than anything is that they did not ask for this whole thing. They were not given a say in the shape of the city, they were not listened to when they raised serious objections, but they sure as hell will have to pay for it. We managed to get hold of a copy of the New Zealand Herald for 2012, and this is the story on the front page: “Rates explosion. Thank you Rodney”. That headline is a prediction from the Labour Opposition. That is what will happen. The “Minister of Ratepayers”, as Rodney Hide likes to be known—the champion of accountability and transparency—has had to have every little piece of financial information dragged out of him in the last few weeks. A month ago the only thing that Aucklanders knew was that there was a $34 million loan for the Auckland Transition Agency. But over the last few weeks more and more information has come out. When the Budget was released we found out that there was another loan to fund the Auckland Transition Agency. Subsequently, as the Minister told the House last week, we found out that the costs were up to $160 million. But the Minister refuses to acknowledge that other costs have been incurred that are part of the transition exercise. He will not accept that the $14 million spent by councils doing transition work at the behest of the Government is a transition cost. He will not acknowledge that $26.5 million spent establishing the water organisation is a transition cost. So this self-styled “Minister of Ratepayers” is trying to define away $40 million - odd of transition costs. He refuses to accept that those costs will be borne by the people of Auckland.
There is a bombshell waiting for the Auckland ratepayer, and that is the next story, I predict, about the cost of the Auckland super-city; the cost of redundancy. Dozens of senior executives will be made redundant; that is a fact. There are dozens of them and they have gold-plated redundancy agreements. The Minister will not acknowledge this, but the cost of those redundancies, I am informed by sources in Auckland, could be as high as $47 million. It beggars belief that this Minister refuses to acknowledge that any modelling or projections have been done about the costs of redundancies. We are coming to the end of this debate—
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Rick Barker) Link to this
I regret to advise the member that his time has expired.
DAVID CLENDON (Green) Link to this
When this review of Auckland’s governance began, people in places like Pakiri and Tomarata probably did not pay too much attention. People would talk about going to “town” and mean Warkworth or Wellsford. I suspect people at Clarks Beach or Ararimu did not pay too much heed to it either, because when they go to “town” it is generally to Papakura or Manukau City. However, these people, along with 1.3 million others, will now be privileged to wear a T-shirt that says: “Proud to be a JAFA”, because something like one-third of the population of this country from 1 November will have the status of being a JAFA. I have been very happy to wear that label for a number of years, but of those 1.3 million I suspect that quite a number will come to realise that they are not.
Mr Henare, in his walk through the park, made a comment about identity, and I take issue with him on that. People will feel very closely the loss of identity. These identities that have built up within the cities and districts over the last 20 or so years, not least in Waitakere City, where people are actually proud of that identity. They have contributed to it and they have felt something from it.
That is a very long story, I say to Tau, and we will talk about it another day.
A distinct sense of identity and of place evolves only over time. Having lived and worked at different times on the North Shore, in Waitakere City, and in Auckland City I understand that each of those areas, each of those places, has a distinct feel and a distinct identity. Whoever gets on to this incoming council or the councils following will have the very difficult task—and it will take a great deal of time—of establishing a sense of community, a sense of shared purpose, and the sense of vision that is necessary if this new city is to succeed and fulfil the potential that we are told it may have.
A shared sense of purpose and vision is critical to the success of any urban conglomerate, and it is difficult to see how that sense of identity of community interest will arise. We know that the hub of this new city is to be Queen Street, and by that I mean Queen Street, Auckland—not Queen Street, Onehunga; Queen Street, Pukekohe; or Queen Street, Northcote. It will be Queen Street in downtown Auckland. If this was a business it would be seen not as a merger but as a takeover—and, potentially, a hostile takeover at that. The choice of Auckland Town Hall as the accommodation for the new council is a very graphic symbol of the fact that Auckland is taking over the other cities and districts and bringing them in to one centralised organisation.
The furthest reaches of the new city will, of course, be represented. Each of them will be able to send one councillor to the meetings in Auckland Town Hall. Councillors from the north, around Wellsford or Te Hana way, will have a 1¼-hour drive off peak. To be at a business meeting at the town hall for 9 in the morning, they will have to be early risers. There is a similar journey from the southern boundary. It is a shorter distance but probably a slower journey. From the south to the north of the new city will be a distance by road of some 140 kilometres, which is roughly the distance from this Chamber to Palmerston North. I will return to that point later. It is very difficult to see how a community of interest can evolve over that spread of difference—the geographic distance, the diversity, and the differences in ethnicity, income, socio-economic status, and beliefs. All of those things make places different from any other place.
The number of electors per councillor will clearly create some tension; indeed, it already has. A voter in Rodney will be one of 54,000 who might be trying to get the attention of their single councillor. A person in Ōrākei will be one of 81,000 people endeavouring, perhaps, to get the attention of a councillor. The plus or minus 10 percent population formula has gone seriously out of the window, with nearly a 25 percent difference in terms of Rodney, 13 percent in Ōrākei, and many of the other wards pushing very hard the boundaries of that maximum allowable under-representation. Auckland is going to grow, and we wonder at what point we will be allowed to get more representation to accommodate that population growth.
Given that something like 38 MPs live in and around the Auckland region, compared with 20 councillors, the likelihood of people in the street bumping into an MP and having some sort of personal contact with their member of Parliament is probably greater than the likelihood of having any sort of real meaningful relationship or even occasional contact with the local councillor who is meant to represent them.
We are told that the Auckland Council of 20 and the various local boards will form one seamless integrated decision-making body. In fact, that is a myth. The local boards will clearly be seen as what they are: a second-tier, almost second-class citizen in terms of representation. We still do not know what their responsibilities, their powers, their funding, or their remuneration will be. We do not know where they will be meeting. There are just too many unknowns. The whole language of the bill, the way in which it has been formulated, the way in which the debate has rolled out, and the outcomes of that debate give the local boards very much the status of second-class citizen. They will struggle. Despite the best efforts of people who are, no doubt, talented and committed, who will take up the onerous task of sitting on those boards, they will struggle to genuinely represent the interests of their constituents.
Owen McShane is gentleman with whom I seldom agree, it must be said, but I think he is on the button this time. He knows a great deal about local government, and particularly resource management in that context. He says the new city is simply too big. He has a nice phrase. He said that people will be disenfranchised by distance. He uses the example of someone living in Albertland. How will they have any connection with what is going on in Queen Street? McShane references a survey on resource management efficiency and finds that in New Zealand there is a negative correlation between the size and efficiency of resource management providers. The survey finds that unitary authorities are uniformly worse than regional councils, and the very large regions had the greatest difficulty in terms of meeting the requirements of the Resource Management Act, and in delivering services efficiently, on time, and under cost—or at least at cost.
The Minister of Local Government, in beginning the third reading of these bills, made reference to us owing a huge debt of gratitude to the head of the Auckland Transition Agency, Mr Mark Ford. I offer no disrespect to that man. He is an extremely capable and skilled gentleman, and I am sure he has worked very hard and will continue to do so. However, the huge debt that Aucklanders will focus on is that which has been referred to by Mr Twyford—the $266 million, and climbing, before the cost of redundancies. That will have to be paid for by the newly appointed JAFAs collectively. There is significant human cost. For months people have not been able to make decisions about their own futures, even down to where they might be able to live if they wish to keep a job.
Who is next? That is the final question I leave members with. I spoke to a seminar earlier this week about the super-city. It was a Wellington-based seminar, and probably 90 percent of the people were Wellingtonians. The question came, unprompted by me, about who I thought would be next. I was asked whom I think the Auckland super-city model might next be imposed on. I mention again the distance from here to Palmerston North, some 140 kilometres. I suspect that if any people in the Hutt or Porirua—or, indeed, over the Rimutakas—believe they will retain their local authorities intact when this legislation inevitably goes through, they are living in a fool’s paradise.
Perhaps the last word must go to a gentleman in Auckland who made a submission with a North American accent—it was clear where he came from, but he is a Kiwi through and through. He thanked Mr Hide and the drafters of this bill for offering him an opportunity to experience something he could not experience even living in America, which is the opportunity to live not in a city but in a corporation. Kia ora koutou.
Dr JACKIE BLUE (National) Link to this
I am pleased to speak on the third readings of the Local Government (Tamaki Makaurau Reorganisation) Amendment Bill, the Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill, and the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Bill. I would like to congratulate the Ministers Rodney Hide and John Carter on all their hard work, and all the officials and the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee staff on all their very hard work. This is the final legislation and it completes the governance arrangements in the Auckland region, which will bring enduring unity and progress to Auckland for the next 50 to 100 years. Although the legislative process began over a year ago, the actual process began with the royal commission. The royal commission, after 18 months of consultation and much advice and discussion, uncovered significant problems such as suffocating red tape, transport bottlenecks, delayed development, and lost opportunities. The commission found that many things were holding up Auckland and in particular the way the city was run. Doing nothing was not an option. The royal commission was concerned that there was a lack of leadership, that there was no single vision for moving Auckland forward, and that important regional issues were getting tangled up in political red tape. That is why this Government has acted swiftly.
I was privileged to be part of the select committee. We went to all parts of Auckland and listened to Aucklanders from all walks of life. There were many concerns about these bills, and, as a result, there have been significant changes. Indeed, in the Committee stage a number of amendments were considered. An excellent amendment by the Hon George Hawkins was adopted. Mr Hawkins’ amendment increases the public accountability of all council-controlled organisations of the Auckland Council. It makes all council-controlled organisations have two board meetings a year open to the public at which the public can speak directly to board members. I am pleased his amendment was adopted.
The Government is serious about ensuring the council-controlled organisations are accountable, and there are many provisions to ensure this. Concern has been expressed that there has not been accountability for council-controlled organisation. There has been concern that they are a power unto themselves, doing their business in secret and at arm’s length. Perhaps it is not appreciated that council-controlled organisations must produce a statement of intent that outlines the objectives and plans ahead. They must account to the council in meeting those objectives. Council-controlled organisations will be held to account by the council. Only Auckland transport has been set up as a statutory council-controlled organisation, and it will require an Act of Parliament to disband it. Watercare Services can be disbanded after 2015, but otherwise the new council can disband any council-controlled organisation it sees fit. In addition, the council will have a specific accountability policy for council-controlled organisations that spells out what is expected of them.
The select committee also recommended that all council-controlled organisations are subject to the council’s long-term plan. Under the Local Government Act, meetings are subject to the Official Information Act but they do not have to be open to the public. The amendment in the name of the Hon George Hawkins means that all Auckland Council council-controlled organisations must have two board meetings a year open to the public at which the public can speak directly to board members. It is important to note that the council-controlled organisations are not new entities. They have been around since the Local Government Act 2002. Indeed, Auckland has 40 council-controlled organisations. Bob Harvey, Mayor of Waitakere City, praised council-controlled organisations in a letter to the New Zealand Herald in March of this year. He said: “For the record, CCOs have worked well for Waitakere City. In 1989 we were born with few assets, and CCOs helped us bring up capital from almost nothing. There are many questions to be asked and many relationships to get right on how CCOs will work, but they do.”
Local boards will be a crucial link. They will be the face of local government. It is true that the mayor and the 20 councillors will focus on the big picture and make decisions that affect the Auckland region, but it is the local boards that will represent communities at the local level. They will have an integral role in Auckland’s overall planning process. Auckland boards will have a significant and wide-ranging role. They will make decisions on local matters, provide local leadership, and build strong local communities. Local board members will be locally elected from people who understand their community’s hopes and aspirations, and understand what makes them tick. Local boards will be required to meet regularly with the communities they represent, understand their needs, and help deal with the things concerning local people. They must formally consult communities when developing their local board plans, which will be done every 3 years. Each year the local board will have to agree with the governing body, the council, the local priorities, and the funding. There will be much consultation, and it will be two-way consultation.
Prior to the local body elections in October, the Auckland Transition Agency will publish the local boards’ baseline list of responsibility, functions, and funding. Local body roles and functions have not been defined in the legislation. There is good reason for that, which I will explain. Instead, the Government has inserted in law the principle that decisions are best made at the local level unless there is good reason not to. Initial roles and functions of the local boards will be set out by the Auckland Transition Authority, which is designing the super-city. The select committee concluded that a prescriptive approach would be far too difficult, complex, and restrictive. The committee considered that a principle-based approach would allow for flexibility and provide for the ability to adapt to changes of local preferences and demographics. The Auckland Transition Agency’s discussion document on local boards shows it has a very good understanding of the role of local boards in their community. I am confident that when the list is published it will be appropriate and a wise choice. The new Auckland Council will be able to review the local boards’ responsibilities after it comes into being on 1 November. It has the ability to add new functions and devolve more responsibilities, but, importantly, it cannot take away responsibilities. The select committee added new section 87A to provide for this. The select committee felt that this would give local board members, and the communities they represent, more certainty about their roles and functions. We felt this was the right thing to do.
The commentary on the bill provides examples of what might be local board non-regulatory activities. The examples provided are vast and wide ranging. The examples provided in the commentary, which literally went on for pages and pages, emphasise that the detail required to legislate would be prohibitive. The committee is confident that a principles-based approach is the way forward and the best way to allocate functions as appropriate. It may well be that the new council will devolve some regulatory powers to the local boards, and I certainly hope this is the case. I know that alcohol is a huge issue in local communities, and I am confident that this will devolve to local boards where they will have their own decision-making powers to look at local bans and outlet licensing. Certainly, the Auckland Transition Agency document indicated that this issue could be a very good one that local boards should adopt, if the council sees fit. Local boards will need to be flexible and respond to their community’s needs. Being prescriptive and defining in legislation would have potentially the opposite outcome, and that is why the select committee outlined a non-prescriptive approach that would allow for flexibility. That certainly would be an unintended consequence.
Just before I conclude, I say that I am wearing the All Whites T-shirt today in honour of our soccer team, and I wish them all the very best in the World Cup, which begins next week. Thank you.
HONE HARAWIRA (Māori Party—Te Tai Tokerau) Link to this
I would like to say that I am wearing a Māori All Blacks jersey, but they are too tight to share them around.
Oh, cut that out! Tēnā koe, Mr Assistant Speaker Barker. Huri rāuna. Tēnā tātou katoa e te Whare.
This weekend is Matariki weekend. I hope to be celebrating it at home in the far north, where the weather is always good, the land is always bountiful, the oceans are always warm, and the people are forever beautiful. Te Tai Tokerau is a region worthy of protection, and in my desire to protect the beauty of my great homeland from the ravages of the rapacious mob from Auckland fleeing to the north for the long weekend, I extend a special thanks to all of those Rodney-ites who are protesting against this “Rodney Bill” by blocking the roads from Pūhoi to Warkworth with a convoy of tractors. Unfortunately, I suspect the message may not be very effective, because long weekend journeys to the north normally begin with a 10-mile-an-hour trip from Ōrewa to Warkworth anyway, so a reduction to 5 miles an hour behind a wheezing procession of tractors will hardly be noticed. Still, I wish the Direct Action Group well, although it is unlikely that the Government will take any notice. Even though it promised, the Government has reneged on the deal to leave north Rodney out of the super-city.
While I am praising those from the northern end of the super-city for standing up for their rights, I also reaffirm the support of the Māori Party for the rights of the indigenous forebears of Tāmaki-makau-rau to seats on any council that is charged with overseeing the development and growth of what is undeniably the jewel of the South Pacific, albeit tarnished somewhat by the racism inherent in the denial of seats to those who have given the lands for the establishment of Auckland City. In this third and final reading, I acknowledge the mana whenua—and, indeed, all Māori—for their commitment to full seats for tangata whenua at the top table, and their support for a Treaty-based framework for the governance and management of the new city.
Nobody can say that we have not tried hard to get this legislation to be consistent with the expectations of Te Tiriti o Waitangi. We attended hui right across the region. We met with iwi, and not only did we march on the hīkoi; we helped to organise it. We read all the letters and submissions, we responded to the media, and we did the behind-the-scenes negotiations with iwi and with the Crown. We tried to negotiate directly with the Ministers concerned. We attended the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee hearings to encourage Māori participation. We helped draft an alternative in the form of an advisory committee. We tabled our minority report. We tabled Supplementary Order Papers to try to inject the Māori presence right up until yesterday. We have spoken at every stage of this legislation. Yet the Māori presence and the Māori participation critical to a positive future for Tāmaki-makau-rau have still been ignored. Still the fight goes on, because it is a just battle for the rights of tangata whenua, consistent with our status under Te Whakaputanga o Niu Tīreni, Te Tiriti o Waitangi, and the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples—the declaration that guarantees indigenous people the right to take part in all decisions affecting their rights, through representatives they choose by their own methods.
It is great to hear John Banks talk about including a Māori liaison role in his office if he gets the mayor’s job, just as it is great to hear Len Brown say that he wants Māori around the table if he gets the job. But I note the cautionary tale from Ngāti Whātua’s spokesman, Ngārimu Blair, who said of the advisory board that it sits a very long way from where decisions are going to be made, but that anything that gets Māori closer to the No. 1 field has to be a good thing. I remind the House that Māori aspirations are for dedicated Māori seats, not for having to make do with second best. Māori do not want to be dancing monkeys at anyone’s table, and we will not support the use of a Māori liaison or a Māori advisory board to deny the expectations of tangata whenua, or the recommendations of any other entity representing Māori opinion.
We are disappointed that Rodney Hide can talk so blithely and so dishonestly about the so-called integrity of one person, one vote, when his party has five seats in this House because New Zealanders have the right at national elections to one person, two votes. We are disappointed that Mr Hide cannot bring himself even to encourage Māori participation in Auckland by allowing them to exercise their one vote in a way that would enable Māori participation in a process that has seen only eight Māori councillors in Auckland in 150 years. We are disappointed that Mr Hide can force the Government to bend to his will by threatening to walk on the coalition if he does not get his way in blocking the Māori seats. We are disappointed that this Government can enter into a coalition arrangement with the Māori Party that says “Both the National Party and the Maori Party will act in accordance with te Tiriti o Waitangi,” and then so easily give way to Rodney Hide’s demand that it ignore the agreement.
Ours is not a call for special privilege for Māori; it is a call to recognise the under-representation of Māori at all layers of local government, a call for the inclusion of tangata whenua in their own land, a call for the inclusion of the special character of this nation that is found nowhere else in the world, and a call for involving the special talents that Māori bring to the table in business, in education, in governance, and in all walks of life. These talents could only enhance the future that Auckland might have had. It is for those reasons that we express again our disappointment that the Government has chosen to ignore the overwhelming support for the Māori seats of the Royal Commission on Auckland Governance, all of the mana whenua groups in Auckland, the two major iwi groups in Auckland, 100 percent of the Māori submissions to the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee, 80 percent of the non-Māori submissions to that select committee, the majority of Auckland’s councils, most of Auckland’s mayors, three of the five major parties in Parliament, and every intelligent political commentator in the country.
According to the 2009 statistics, 40 percent of Auckland’s kids are Polynesian—that is, Māori and Pasifika. Failure to recognise those dynamics—by refusing to have dedicated Māori seats, by refusing to plan for formal Pasifika representation, and by ignoring the spectacular blossoming of Auckland as a multicultural playground to be proud of—suggests a mindset that we used to condemn in South Africa’s and Australia’s treatment of their indigenous peoples. But that mindset sadly lives on in this nation, a nation that can so vociferously condemn comments about white m - - - - - f - - - - - s made by a Māori, but blithely ignore comments about darkies, horis, and coconuts when made by a Pākehā.
Fifty years ago Māori rugby players were excluded from the All Black tour to South Africa—a decision we condemn the South African Government for. Fifty years on, Māori people are being excluded from having their own seats at the top table in their home town—a decision we condemn the New Zealand Government for. It took 50 years to get an apology for this country’s meek and cringing acceptance of the demands of a racist Government overseas. How sad it is that in this supposedly bright and shining new millennium we have learnt nothing from that embarrassing period in our own nation’s history.
The Māori Party reiterates its commitment to fighting for dedicated Māori representation at every level of governance, and we commit our support to ensuring that Māori will one day take their rightful place at the top table in Tāmaki-makau-rau. Kia ora tātou.
NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central) Link to this
I am delighted to support the third readings of the Local Government (Tamaki Makaurau Reorganisation) Amendment Bill, the Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill, and the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Bill. This afternoon we are ending the final chapter of reform of local government in Auckland. Let us not forget why we are here. We are here to deliver what the Royal Commission on Auckland Governance asked us to deliver—that is, a city that is able to compete successfully with Melbourne, Sydney, and Brisbane for people and investment, but also a city that has world-class standards and quality of life. Our Government listened to the royal commission when it said that “Maintaining the status quo, or tinkering around the edges, is not the answer. Bold change is required,”. Problems the commission identified included “Messy and inefficient urban growth, infrastructure constraints, social disparity, and poor urban design …”. Our city has a third of New Zealand’s population, and with 2 million people on track to be living in Auckland by 2050 it was not an option for this Parliament to keep the status quo.
The royal commission, initiated by the previous Government, cost $4 million and took 18 months. After three pieces of legislation, thousands of submissions, and hundreds of hours of Auckland Governance Legislation Committee hearings, we are near the end of this parliamentary process. We are on the cusp of what we all hope is a new era of local government for the people of Auckland. After 3 years of consultation, decisions have been made. There are some bold changes, but Aucklanders are presented with a workable structure and one that has the potential to offer greater representation, better access to services for disadvantaged people, and, ultimately, a more secure, prosperous, and sustainable city.
I think it is important at this point to recognise why the legislation has been challenging, and I acknowledge my colleague Hone Harawira and his comments on Māori representation. The first relates to the scale and the magnitude of the changes for people, to legislation, and to policies. This is the greatest change to Auckland in a generation, and it will have an impact for generations to come. The other reason that this has been challenging to this Parliament is that we have been effectively engaging with the rearrangement of power. The change from eight mayors to one, from over 100 councillors to 20, and from a few community boards to 21 local boards was never going to please everyone. These changes cannot be looked at in isolation. One must view the whole system to understand the shift to a better balance of power between local and regional government, and to understand how Aucklanders may be better represented. It is one of those areas that puts an obligation on parliamentarians to act responsibly; it is legislation dealing with people’s rights and how they are represented. I am confident that although it is not possible to please everybody, we have acted responsibly to deliver a system that will lead to improved representation for all Aucklanders.
Parliament has worked alongside the Auckland Transition Agency. The Auckland Governance Legislation Committee and Ministers have recognised that whatever Parliament chose not to address within this legislation has had to be addressed by the Auckland Transition Agency. I acknowledge the huge dedication and commitment by the agency, and in particular by Mark Ford, for the task they have completed.
As I have worked on the legislation I have been acutely aware of the following principles. The first was to ensure that we achieve the appropriate balance of delivering a structure, while not exerting excessive central government control and prescribing every last detail. This ensures maximum flexibility for a city that will continue to experience great change in terms of our people and our environment, and enables improved autonomy for local body politicians. The second principle has been to ensure that Parliament has put in place what may be interim arrangements to ensure the council can operate from day one. After listening to Aucklanders, the select committee has made significant changes to the council-controlled organisations, both in terms of accountability and by ultimately giving back to the Auckland Council the responsibility as to whether most council-controlled organisations should exist. The third principle has been to take into consideration that any unique features of the Auckland Council may have implications for the rest of New Zealand. Some of these variances are evident in areas like the new obligation for the mayor to engage with people who are too young to vote. This is entirely appropriate for one of the youngest cities in the world. Auckland is unique in New Zealand in terms of its demographics and size. However, we are confident that although it is not this Government’s intention to initiate the process with other regions in New Zealand, the model could work in other areas if they want it. We have aimed to deliver an enduring, flexible structure that will last for generations.
The fourth principle is diversity, and it is reflected in the local boards. We know that even within my Auckland Central electorate there is incredible diversity, from Waiheke, to Great Barrier Island, and to the central business district. What is right for each of these areas could not necessarily be prescribed within legislation. Given the number of changes to people, places, and legislation, I think it is inevitable—and I am happy to stand up and say so—that it is not likely that we will get it perfect. There probably will be implementation issues. But I hope that the people of Auckland are able to be patient and grasp some of the extraordinary opportunities that lie ahead for our city—in particular, in the area of planning. We heard today that we are moving from a system of having over 800 consent documents, to 100 consent documents. This is about making people’s lives simpler in Auckland, and making businesses’ lives a lot more efficient and less costly.
I would like to be clear that although Parliament has put in a system of local government, it cannot control the candidates that step up. I encourage all Aucklanders of all ethnicities and ages, and in all places, to step up at this exciting time and make a contribution. I acknowledge the members of the royal commission for the huge contribution they made to this process. I thank my select committee colleagues Jackie, Tau, and Simon for all their hard work, and also all the other National MPs and Ministers who contributed to this process. I acknowledge the Hon Rodney Hide in particular for his ability to listen to Aucklanders and to make changes to the council-controlled organisations. I acknowledge the Hon John Carter for his uncanny ability to negotiate through troubled waters and find agreement.
I want to finish on this note—the opportunity that lies ahead. This is a time of opportunity for Auckland, and it is time when I believe we could be on the cusp of some very transformational things happening in Auckland. In particular, I note the ability of having one spatial plan in Auckland and what we may see as a result. It is time for Aucklanders to finally be able to come together and discuss what kind of public transport system they want. It is time for Aucklanders to finally be able to come together and decide where they want the cultural fabric of Auckland to exist. It is time for Aucklanders to finally be able to come together and look at the poorer areas and communities in Auckland. Our city is gifted in both people and environments. This evening we have the pleasure to deliver to Auckland a new system of local government. I hope Aucklanders will look back and say that although the process was hard, and at times it was painful, this was the day that Aucklanders emerged stronger and with greater opportunity for our greatest city. Thank you.
SU’A WILLIAM SIO (Labour—Māngere) Link to this
I will begin with some pleasantries. E ngā mana, e ngā iwi, e ngā reo, e ngā hau e whā, e ngā kārangaranga maha, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, kia ora tātou katoa. Talofa lava. Ou te fa‘atalofa atu i lau afioga i le Fofoga Fetalai, fa‘apea sui mamalo o le Maota Fono, ae maise fo‘i le pāia maualuga o Samoa o lo‘o fa‘afofoga mai.
I take this opportunity to briefly thank the House. This is the last day of the present sitting block. I appreciate—and I reflect the appreciation of the Samoan community—the acknowledgment of Samoan Language Week in the House. I am particularly grateful to all members who attempted to use the language here, and I hope they continue to use the language outside of the House.
I now express my appreciation to my colleagues on the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee: the Hon George Hawkins, Phil Twyford, and the Hon Shane Jones. I thank my various colleagues from the Auckland region who participated throughout the consultation process. I think it is important that I acknowledge them, because in the Committee stage they were able to convey what the people of Auckland were saying. To be fair, I also acknowledge the chair of the select committee, John Carter, for the way he conducted our proceedings, and I acknowledge all the members from the other side of the House.
This afternoon I have been somewhat reflective as we have been debating the third and final readings of the bills derived from the third bill to set up the new Auckland structure. I have listened intently to the submissions made by MPs from around this House. There are two Samoan sayings that come to mind that I want to expand on in my speech. The first one is: “Ua aliali le va‘ava‘a o le tuli”. It means that when the bird called the tuli reveals its insides, all one sees are bones—nothing more—but when it closes its wings it looks nice and fluffy. The other saying is: “E le falala fua lau o le niu, e ala ona falala ona ua agi le matagi”—“The leaves of the coconut tree do not move without reason; they move because the winds are blowing.” I have to say, when I reflect on the first bill, the second bill, and now the third bill, that change is coming. The winds are cold outside, and I have a feeling that it is going to be colder for the people of Auckland.
I have a picture in my mind of Manukau City and the Auckland region. I got this picture on Monday when I attended the premiere of a movie called Groove City. It is a movie made by people from Manukau, and it showcases the wealth of talent of people in Manukau. One could not help but cry, laugh, and be overwhelmed by the joy that that movie showed. I recommend it to the House, when it comes out. That film showcases what I think is the best of Manukau City. There are many murals that also reflect that. My experience is that when we put up a beautiful mural on the wall of a town centre or by the library, as showcased by the Groove City movie, the minute some idiot, some inane creep, tags it, whether it be a yellow, white, black, blue, or red tag, it destroys the beauty of that mural—it really does.
In the beginning of this process, when we talked about uniting the region, when we talked about our vision for the future of enabling Auckland to be competitive with the other significant cities of the world, the people of Auckland felt some hope and some desire that it would be a good thing. But, since then, the first bill was rammed through this House in urgency, without consultation. The people of Auckland were up in arms and they asked where the consultation was. The Prime Minister broke a pre-election promise. He said that he would consult Aucklanders when the report of the Royal Commission on Auckland Governance became available. Aucklanders did not like the fact that the first bill was rammed through this House without consultation. The sad thing is that laid the foundation for the death of the eight local territorial authorities that exist in the Auckland region.
Hon Dr Jonathan ColemanI say to the member “Hold your horses!”. That is the sad story about this whole affair. In respect of the second bill, because National members had listened to and heard the anger of the people of Auckland, they decided to consult. But instead of maintaining due process in respect of that consultation, National collapsed the process and shortened it, and people again were not happy about the way it was done. I listened to the consultation. Many Aucklanders were not happy about the second round of consultation, but they felt that they should be polite. I heard the chairperson of the select committee say that they should wait for the third bill—there would be some changes. That did not happen. In respect of the third and final bill, legislation from which we are debating and are about to vote on today, people lost their patience. Some significant individuals in the Auckland region were quite angry, and they pointed out to the chairperson of the select committee and the members of the Government what they truly thought. In my second reading speech I listed what many of those significant Aucklanders said.
As an Opposition party, Labour has fought tooth and nail on the first bill, the second bill, and the third bill. The third bill was introduced for consultation during the Christmas period. Most people were not focused on it; they wanted to spend time with their families. It almost felt as if introducing the bill during the Christmas period was the deliberate intention of this Government so as not to reveal everything to the people of Auckland. People submitted to the select committee that they were unprepared and that they had not been given enough time to make their submissions.
I repeat what Aucklanders have said to me and to the other members of the select committee. The National Government’s third bill is seen as designing a corporate governance structure for the Auckland region and its peoples. The majority of Aucklanders are opposed to this corporate design. The majority of Aucklanders believe that the Government’s super-city structure is about positioning the Auckland region for a hostile takeover of its strategic and significant asset holdings. Submitters have described—and I repeat—the third bill as the third strike against this Government’s recidivist determination to abuse, undermine, and ride roughshod over the democratic principle of good governance structures based on power by the people, of the people, for the people. The majority of Aucklanders did not vote for a National Government to flog off assets that they had put a lot of sweat and energy into acquiring. This legislation is the final nail in the coffin.
I say that, for Manukau City, the third bill seals up the fate of that wonderful city and its people to the unknown. We will no longer see the Manukau sun shining in the Manukau sky. It will not be Manukau air that we breathe from here on. They will not be Manukau parks that our children play in any more. Groups and small businesses will have to redesign their names and logos at their own cost. We will lose a part of our identity because of this measure.
I now finish by saying that this Government got it wrong. This Government got it wrong by not consulting Aucklanders. It got it wrong by having only 20 councillors. It got it wrong by having powerful council-controlled organisations, or CCOs. It got it wrong by not having the powers of the local boards enshrined in legislation. It got it wrong by not having Māori representation. That was a significant submission from the people of Auckland—they wanted Māori representation. That has been a missed opportunity by this Government. It got it wrong by not giving clarity to the Pacific communities, to the ethnic communities, to the youth, to the many disabled people in the community—
H V Ross Robertson—and to the senior citizens, as Ross Robertson said. It got it wrong when it did not provide any certainty to the business improvement districts. It got it wrong, and the people of Auckland will have to pay for it.
SIMON BRIDGES (National—Tauranga) Link to this
Talofa lava, Mr Deputy Speaker. The previous speech from Su’a William Sio was heartfelt. I thought it was thoughtful. I say seriously that I enjoyed and was touched by the Samoan quotations. I thought that, in many ways, it was a good speech from the member. It was genuine. But I have to say that although I agree that change is coming—
Hon Darren Hughes—I say to the member Darren Hughes that it is change we can believe in. Far from it being a cold wind, it is a warm wind of change. It is a positive thing that we are doing for Auckland.
Before I finish talking about Su’a William Sio’s speech, although substantively I did not agree with what he said, I think the members who were on the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee can all agree, despite our disagreements, that it was quite a harmonious committee. I thank all the members for that. The committee was in good humour nearly all of the time. I thank the officials. I thank the Auckland Transition Agency, or ATA, for what it has done in getting us to the point where we are now, and we will be much further ahead by October-November of this year.
But I would suggest that the legislation that we are dealing with now and have already dealt with to bring us to the reformation of local government in Auckland are really about a dichotomy, if you like, between the regional and the local, and empowering both. I think that is excellent. Someone else said of this legislation, that, at the regional level, we cannot have a waka with the various rowers on it all going in different directions. We need the rowers on the waka going in the same direction. I think that is an apt metaphor for what we have done at the regional level. We have empowered the region to get over the differences that the various councils have at the moment so that it can come together on regional projects, like having a fantastic, first-class waterfront, and big-ticket items for the cultural and the sporting success of what is a very good city now but could be a first-class, great city. I do not think that what we are doing at the regional level can be underrated or undervalued. It is not possible to overstate the importance of that point. In his book The Rise of the Creative Class,Richard Florida talks about how very important place is at the regional level.
The member can verify that; I read it on the plane. What we are doing is very much in the spirit of that book—one city and one vision for that city.
The paradox, of course, is that as the regional level becomes more and more significant, so too does the local level, and so does the need to preserve it and to give it flavour, because it is where people live, day in, day out. The local level is as important as ever, or maybe even more important, and the local boards will do a good job of empowering local communities in villages like Devonport; like Avondale; like Te Atatū peninsula, where I grew up; like Birkenhead. They will flourish, I believe, under what we are putting in place and what the Auckland Transition Agency is doing. What we are doing at a regional level could not be more significant, and what we are doing at a local level could not be more significant.
This is a significant day for Auckland City, the biggest city in this country. It is a good city, but I think that, with what we are doing, it stands every prospect of being a first-class, great city. This is a proud day for this House.
CARMEL SEPULONI (Labour) Link to this
I stand to speak in opposition to this legislation, which aims to make Auckland governance less transparent, less accountable, and less responsive to Aucklanders. Before I get into it, I would like to acknowledge the Labour members on the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee. I think we had a fantastic team representing us on that select committee. I acknowledge the work of our spokesperson on Auckland issues, Phil Twyford. I also acknowledge the work of George Hawkins, Su’a William Sio, and Shane Jones. Unfortunately, although they did the best job possible, it came down to numbers and we were outnumbered.
I also acknowledge many of the fantastic local body representatives, particularly the Mayor of Waitakere, Bob Harvey, who has been mayor for 18 years, and the Deputy Mayor of Waitakere City, Penny Hulse. They do a fantastic job in terms of they way in which they represent Waitakere and the way in which they work effectively with community groups and with central government to achieve the best things they can for their community.
It should be no surprise that Labour opposes this bill, and I am sure that it is not a surprise to anyone in this House. We believe that the Auckland governance structure needs to be changed—we have thought that for quite some time—but the way in which the National Government has gone about it is undemocratic and smacks of a hidden agenda. We believe in a democratic process, and we believe in delivering local government that is in the ownership of people, not corporations. We have heard that from a number of people. For us, it is about community, not corporations. But, unfortunately, the other side of the House thinks differently. Labour members believe in local governance structures that communities can trust. This bill delivers none of those things, so it is no surprise that Labour MPs—who do believe in transparency, proper consultation, and the democratic process—will be voting against this bill.
It has been surprising that Auckland National MPs are not joining us to voice opposition to this legislation. If they had been talking to their people in their electorates they would know that Aucklanders do not support this legislation. Why have they not, in all the speeches we have heard today, acknowledged the concerns of the people of Auckland? Why are they assisting Rodney Hide to ram this legislation through without proper consultation, and why are they seeking to take the control of three-quarters of local government away from the people and put it in the hands of corporations? National MPs were elected to represent their electorates, but they are sitting back and watching while this legislation goes through.
There were a huge number of submissions against this bill from all over Auckland, but I want to start by talking about the submissions from people from Auckland Central, which is Nikki Kaye’s electorate. Given her nauseating, over-the-top, greasy conduct with regards to Auckland Central submitters, one would think that she would know what her constituents are concerned about. But she pretends that what her Government is doing is OK with her electorate. She stands in this House misrepresenting the views of her constituents, not relaying the real views of Auckland Central but relaying the Government’s views of this legislation and pretending that those views belong to the constituents of Auckland Central.
Auckland Central people were worried that council-controlled organisations will take away their democratic rights. That came through in the submissions. They were worried about the corporatisation of local government, which this Government is encouraging, and they are now also worried about the fact that they have a local MP who has done nothing to address their concerns.
I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The member opposite has been making some wild allegations, saying that I am not representing my constituents.
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKERMy colleague Jacinda Ardern put forward an amendment that would have placed a responsibility for waste management with the local Waiheke board, which is part of Nikki Kaye’s electorate. As MP for Auckland Central, including Waiheke Island, she must know about the poor handling of the island’s waste management contract by the Auckland City Council, so why did she not support the amendment?
My colleague Jacinda Ardern also put up an amendment that would have amended the Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill to ensure that youth were consulted in the decision-making process of the governing body and local boards. The amendment would have formally established an Auckland youth council at governing body level, territorial youth forums at local body level, and requirements for consultation with them. Did Nikki Kaye support that amendment? No, she did not. She thinks that it will suffice that the mayor has the power to speak to those who are not of voting age. What does that mean in the first place? How can she look in the mirror and honestly say that she has advocated for those whom she purports to represent?
Another MP who has been unusually quiet over the super-city is the member for Waitakere, Paula Bennett. I have been out in the Waitakere electorate talking to the people about the super-city legislation. I do not know whether Paula Bennett has been doing the same thing, but if she had been, she would have heard loud and clear that the people of Waitakere do not like what the Government was trying to do.
One issue I want to raise, which is important to people from Waitakere, is with regards to the Waitakere Ranges. We understand that the ranges belong to Aucklanders, and Waitakere people want reassurance that that will not change. I put forward an amendment that would have safeguarded the legal protection afforded to the ranges. Why did Paula Bennett not support that? West Aucklanders are protective of their ranges. They fought hard for a law change to give ownership to the Auckland Regional Council, because they wanted the ranges to be recognised for what they are: unique and in need of special protection to ensure that that uniqueness is preserved for generations to come.
That was the spirit behind the Waitakere Ranges Heritage Area Act, which my colleague and former Waitakere electorate MP Lynne Pillay can justifiably be proud of. For many people in Waitakere, it is painful to watch all their hard work being undermined by the undemocratic process that has been the establishment of the super-city. The submitters from that area put forward a number of messages very clearly, and one of those messages was: “Do not mess with our Waitakere Ranges.” I know how much the people of Waitakere love their ranges. I know how much they want to see them stay in Auckland ownership. The ranges are part of Waitakere’s identity, and that is what the area stands to lose with the passage of this legislation. Paula Bennett should be standing up for her constituents. Instead, she is choosing to ignore their concerns, and that is not good enough.
Another issue that I want to discuss is that the Royal Commission on Auckland Governance recommended that a social issues forum be set up, but the Government ignored that recommendation, as it did with so many of the other good recommendations. The Government ignored the recommendation for a social issues forum. It adopted only the ideas that fit its own agenda. Never mind what is good for Auckland. But Paula Bennett, as an Auckland MP and as the Minister for Social Development and Employment, should have pushed for the social issues forum to be established. Why did she not do that? Because she obviously treats Aucklanders who have concerns about the social impacts of the super-city with the same disdain that she has for beneficiaries who dare to challenge her policy.
The third MP whom I would like to talk about is the National MP for Maungakiekie, who has largely been absent from this debate.
That member is Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga. Where has Sam been with regard to advocating on behalf of our Pacific community? They raised concerns about the Pacific advisory board, and he was silent. They did not want the sunset clause in the bill and they did not want the Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs deciding who would be their representatives on that board. Yet that member, National’s one and only Pacific member in Government, was silent on the issue.
So many submissions were made by residents in Maungakiekie. Submitters clearly articulated high levels of concern over the corporatisation of our city and the diminishing of their fundamental democratic rights. Yet the member for Maungakiekie stood up in the House last night and told us that this bill was wonderful. He praised his colleagues for what he sighted as a job well done, but I have no doubt that the vast majority of Maungakiekie residents do not share his opinion on this legislation or on the job his colleagues did with regard to this legislation.
I have talked about some of the amendments. I want to acknowledge Carol Beaumont and the amendment she put forward. It would have amended the Local Government (Auckland Law Reform) Bill to ensure that protection against the sale of the ports of Auckland was retained. Maungakiekie came out loud and clear and said it was opposed to privatisation, yet the member for Maungakiekie, Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga, ignored that and kept silent. Yet here we have my Labour colleague working hard for those people.
Hon JOHN CARTER (Associate Minister of Local Government) Link to this
It falls to me to make the last contribution on the Local Government (Tamaki Makaurau Reorganisation) Amendment Bill, the Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill, and the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Bill, which started their journey in April of last year. Indeed, the legislation goes back prior to that, when the previous Labour Government decided to instruct a royal commission to look at the issues around Auckland. Labour considered that, in the same way that this Government does, issues needed to be addressed that were causing concern to Aucklanders and, indeed, to all New Zealanders. This Government decided, when the Royal Commission on Auckland Governance reported—and it must be remembered that the previous Labour Government postponed the delivery of the royal commission’s report until after the election, because it did not want to grapple with it itself—to take up the challenge and lay down the opportunity for Aucklanders to move forward and for Auckland to become a greater city than it already is. This legislation is the structure we now pass on to the people of Auckland.
Aucklanders wanted a council that actually worked on regional issues. They did not want the present system, which, as far as I am aware, everyone in this House acknowledges causes conflict and disarray. We see that so often with the present structure. They wanted a council that could deliver and make decisions on regional issues. So we have set up a council with a mayor and 20 councillors to focus on those things that matter from a regional perspective.
Then Aucklanders said that they wanted to make sure their local issues, those things that matter to them on a day-to-day basis in their townships, their streets, and their suburbs, would be dealt with. So we set up the local boards and empowered them to ensure that those functions that matter to the people are addressed. At the moment, that work is still being concluded by the Auckland Transition Agency, because the issues are so complex that it is beyond the ability of Parliament and its select committee to deal with them through legislation. Another thing we were told by Aucklanders was they did not want Wellington to instruct or prescribe. Again, we took great care to get the balance right.
The third area they asked for was an efficient way of delivering the services that Aucklanders require on a day-to-day basis, such as their water, their roading, and those other things that matter to them from a social perspective. So we took great care to ensure that when we set up the council-controlled organisations, or CCOs, we gave the Auckland people the right to have an input into what happens with those organisations. We have given the Auckland Council more power than any other council in New Zealand. The council sets the general policy of the council-controlled organisations. The council is in charge of its council-controlled organisations. It will set the parameters under which the council-controlled organisations operate. It will set the policy. The board of directors of the council-controlled organisations will then take that policy, refine it, and administer it. But the Auckland Council will constantly be monitoring it and will have its hands on the policy on behalf of the people of Auckland. Indeed, we were so concerned to make sure we listened to the people of Auckland that when a good amendment was put up by the Opposition that we thought improved the legislation, we adopted it.
The point of all of this is we intended to have a structure that allowed the council to look at regional issues, we wanted a structure that allowed the local people to have their local voice heard in their local democracy, and we wanted a system that was efficient at delivering services for the people of Auckland. So we made sure that all of those connect through the long-term council community plans, and that they have to work together and recognise each other. One cannot work without the other.
I stand here today, along with my colleague Rodney Hide and all the rest of the Government, to say that we are proud of the structure we have put in place and delivered to Aucklanders. But I make this point: our having put the structure in place, it is now over to Aucklanders to make it work. It is up to them to decide who will be their mayor, their councillors, and their representatives on their local boards. It is up to them to decide who the directors of the council-controlled organisations will be and how they want those organisations to be run. We have given a structure to make sure that from day one Auckland has a local governance system that can work for the people of Auckland, but the ultimate responsibility comes down to the people of Auckland to choose who should lead them to make sure that those things are delivered. I am proud to have been part of the Parliament that has made the biggest change in local government history in New Zealand. I am proud to have been part of that. Although we hear some mistruths and misinterpretations deliberately put forward by the Opposition on how all of it will work, I am absolutely confident that we will end up with an Auckland that will work for Aucklanders and for New Zealand.
I conclude by saying some thankyous. First, I thank the Clerk’s Office for the work it did for the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee. I will not name any names, because to do so would leave others out, but I must say the staff were a big part of this whole structure, and I think all the members of the select committee would recognise that. I thank the Parliamentary Counsel Office for all the work that it did. We would not be here today without the sterling work that parliamentary counsel gave to the select committee and to Parliament. I thank very much the staff of the Department of Internal Affairs, and all the other departmental representatives; they played a huge part in giving us advice and assistance as we worked our way through the submissions and those things that the people of Auckland felt were absolutely necessary. I thank the staff in the office of the Minister of Local Government, because they played a big part, as did the staff of my office. I thank them for the work and the hours that they have put in on behalf of the people of Auckland.
We have already acknowledged the work done by Mark Ford and the Auckland Transition Agency, but I add my thanks to that gentleman and to the people he has brought around him to make this whole thing function. Quite honestly, I do not think we would have got here without the fine leadership that he and his team have given us.
I also thank all the staff of the councils. It is a difficult time for them. Quite honestly, I am pleasantly surprised at the way in which they have responded to the challenge of setting up this change, which is the biggest change to local government in New Zealand. I also thank the mayors and the councillors for the work they have done. They could have been very difficult, but, in the main, they have been supportive. Apart from the odd one ducking behind a tree every now and again, they have actually been very supportive and very helpful.
I am proud to have been involved with the Auckland Governance Legislation Committee and all of its members. It has been a great privilege to work with the select committee and to have the opportunity to chair it.
Finally, as I say the last few words in the third readings of this legislation, it needs to be acknowledged and recorded that I thank the Minister of Local Government, Rodney Hide. I thank Rodney for the energy, the thought, and the dedication he has put in. Pretty much every day he has been liaising with Mark Ford, the Department of Internal Affairs, and the people who matter, in order to make this reorganisation work. He can stand proud and take a huge bow for the work and for the structure that we have delivered to Auckland on behalf of this Government. I am proud to stand beside Rodney Hide and all the members of this Government to deliver a structure to Auckland that will see it improve in the future, and will make sure that the finest city in this country continues to be so. Thank you very much.
A party vote was called for on the question,
That the Local Government (Tamaki Makaurau Reorganisation) Amendment Bill, the Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill, and the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Bill be now read a third time.
Ayes 63
Noes 56
Bills read a third time.