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Local Government—Auckland Reform

Thursday 7 September 2006 Hansard source (external site)

Key12. JOHN KEY (National—Helensville) Link to this
to the Minister with responsibility for Auckland Issues

Does she stand by her statement on the radio yesterday, regarding local government reform in Auckland, that “I don’t want to spend time on reorganisations. They take a huge amount of time.”; if so, why?

TizardHon JUDITH TIZARD (Minister with responsibility for Auckland Issues) Link to this

Yes, I do, as a personal view, having been through the reorganisations in 1989. However, I also support any move that will help Auckland to become an internationally competitive world-class city, and any initiative for reform needs to come from wider Auckland.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

When the Prime Minister meets with the four Auckland City mayors today, will she be saying to them: “I don’t want to spend time on reorganisations. They take a huge amount of time.”; if not, why not?

TizardHon JUDITH TIZARD Link to this

The Prime Minister has already met with the Auckland mayors. What I will say is what I have been saying for the last 15 years that I have been in Parliament: having seen the amount of time that reorganisations of local government take, I would prefer that we had one plan and got on with it to fix Auckland.

RobertsonH V Ross Robertson Link to this

What actions has the Government taken to assist Auckland local government?

TizardHon JUDITH TIZARD Link to this

We are working closely with Auckland local government, business, and communities. For example, we have invested heavily in land transport. We are spending more than $7.3 billion on Auckland roads and public transport in the next 10 years—over $559 million this year alone. We have embarked on New Zealand’s largest State highway building programme. We have worked with Government and Auckland leaders to launch a vision aimed at achieving a common view of transport projects in Auckland, because we recognise that Auckland must be a world-class city if it is to help New Zealand to meet its prosperity potential.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

Is it not the case that her stated position is the complete opposite of the Prime Minister’s, who was reported in the New Zealand Herald as hinting that the Government will consider reducing the number of Auckland councils and as saying that stronger government at the regional level will help to push the city forward; is it not also the case that her position is completely opposite to that of the Minister of Finance, who was also reported in the as saying there is a strong indication that central government would be prepared to give the process of centralisation in Auckland a big shove; if not, why not?

TizardHon JUDITH TIZARD Link to this

No, because the Prime Minister has also said that we need to keep the “local” in local government. Auckland has regional government and there is nothing that could not be done in Auckland now, within the present structures. Aucklanders should get on with it. I am really concerned at the time that is taken for structural reorganisation, when in fact what we need is action—which is what this Government is doing.

PetersRt Hon Winston Peters Link to this

Supplementary question.

WilsonMadam SPEAKER Link to this

I am sorry, but there are no more supplementary questions for the member’s party.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

I would say “on your butt”, but I guess it is a sore point.

WilsonMadam SPEAKER Link to this

Would the member please just get on with the question.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

If my member’s bill on local government reform in Auckland is drawn out of the ballot, will the Minister support its first reading; if not, why not?

TizardHon JUDITH TIZARD Link to this

I have not seen that bill. But, given the history of the National Party’s contribution to the structural reorganisation of Auckland, I would be very surprised if it were a positive move.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

Are we in fact misinterpreting the Minister’s comments that “I don’t want to spend time on reorganisations. They take a huge amount of time.”, and did she actually mean that local government reform in Auckland would take a huge amount of her own time; precisely what other commitments does she have that make her such an industrious and overstretched Minister?

TizardHon JUDITH TIZARD Link to this

One of the roles I have taken as Minister with responsibility for Auckland Issues is to meet with every territorial local authority and with regional government, the business community, and the voluntary sector. Many of those organisations are calling for reorganisation, but many of them, having been through the changes in 1989, would prefer just to get on with their work.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

What kind of sinecure is it to be the Minister with responsibility for Auckland Issues, when the Prime Minister is meeting with the four Auckland mayors about the possibility of an Auckland “super city” and she is not even present or invited?

TizardHon JUDITH TIZARD Link to this

Having been to every one, but one, of the Auckland Mayoral Forum meetings this year, I have made it very clear to Auckland that my job is to facilitate the access of Auckland leaders to the relevant Minister. I have no problem with that. Unlike that member, who appears to be usurping the role of his leader, I have no leadership aspirations.

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