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National Certificate of Educational Achievement—Qualification Format

Thursday 22 March 2007 Hansard source (external site)

Rich8. KATHERINE RICH (National) Link to this
to the Minister of Education

Why is he “leaning towards” listing “Not Achieved” on National Certificate of Educational Achievement (NCEA) students’ qualifications?

CullenHon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) Link to this

Yesterday the Minister reported that 168 recommendations from the 2005 reviews of NCEA had already been addressed, though he is still considering further changes to the design. One of these is reporting the standards that students have attempted and failed to achieve. The Minister is expecting a report on possible changes, including in respect of this issue, this weekend.

RichKatherine Rich Link to this

When did the Minister have his road to Damascus experience that led him to lean towards reporting “Not Achieved” on a Record of Learning, because in September 2006 he dismissed the idea, saying: “There’s no place on such a list for the things that people have not yet attained, or perhaps not even attempted.”?

CullenHon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN Link to this

My understanding is that externally assessed standards already carry a “Not Achieved” on students’ results notices. The information now is that that should be extended to internal assessment. What has emerged in the interim is a concern that if there is not a clear listing of “Not Achieved” then employers in particular, and others, do not have any idea about what standards people actually are not capable of achieving, as opposed to those that they have sat and achieved.

DonnellyHon Brian Donnelly Link to this

Does the Minister believe that a school that offers the full range of NCEA subjects but also allows selected students to sit up to two Cambridge International Examinations papers at year 11, or one paper at year 12, is demonstrating a rejection of the NCEA system, as suggested by a recent New Zealand Herald article?

CullenHon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN Link to this

No, clearly that is not necessarily a rejection at all of NCEA but merely an acknowledgment that there are other purposes for which one might want to sit a limited range of the Cambridge International Examinations. It is worth reminding ourselves that the name is somewhat misleading. This has nothing to do with the old entrance examinations for Cambridge University. The sort of elitism that is now being applied to this qualification is completely misplaced in terms of its standards and content.

RichKatherine Rich Link to this

How credible was he when last September he said that failure had no place in the reporting of standards-based assessment or on the Record of Learning, yet last night he said he was leaning towards deciding to put such failure on a student’s Record of Learning?

CullenHon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN Link to this

Of course, one of the elements of standards-based achievement is that sometimes one can resit and achieve the standard.

DonnellyHon Brian Donnelly Link to this

Does the Minister believe that the decision to include unit standards in NCEA credits, which was not in accordance with the original proposals, has enhanced the credibility of NCEA assessments in the eyes of the public, who are, after all, the ultimate users of NCEA?

CullenHon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN Link to this

Yes, and I am particularly aware of the contribution that member has made to a discussion on the development of the whole NCEA system, which was, of course, begun—let us recognise—under the previous National Government, and most of the changes introduced were, in fact, in response to concerns about a dumbing down of the system.

RichKatherine Rich Link to this

What has made the Minister change his mind on the fundamental issue of reporting failure, because it looks like he has crumbled in the face of political pressure?

CullenHon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN Link to this

As I said before, students’ results notices already carry a “Not Achieved” for an externally assessed standard. The question is whether it goes on the Record of Learning, as the member rightly implies. I think what has happened is it is very clear that there is a degree of public concern if the “Not Achieved” element is able to be entered on the Record of Learning. Therefore, the acceptability of the system, which is a very good system and much better than the Cambridge International Examinations system for New Zealand purposes, needs to be looked at.

RichKatherine Rich Link to this

Can the Minister confirm that the New Zealand Qualifications Authority is panicking and ringing up schools to ask what it will take to stop further defections; if not, why are not his officials keeping him informed?

CullenHon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN Link to this

No, I cannot confirm that. Perhaps the member should note the New Zealand Qualifications Authority is not responsible for the design features of NCEA; it is a Ministry of Education responsibility.

RichKatherine Rich Link to this

How credible is it to talk about increasing the reporting of failure, when the Minister’s officials hand out information to principals asking the question whether they are avoiding predictable failure where possible, which is code for avoiding kids sitting external exams?

CullenHon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN Link to this

It is rather akin to suggesting there is not much point in Dr Smith sitting an examination on literacy, because he is doomed to fail.

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