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Adult and Community Education—Benefits for Māori

Tuesday 28 July 2009 Hansard source (external site)

Davis12. KELVIN DAVIS (Labour) Link to this
to the Associate Minister of Education

Ka tū a ia i runga i tana kauhau ki te Hui o ngā Kāreti Hapori i te Hōtērā o Grace i te rā o Wenerei rua tekau o te marama o Mei me tāna i whakanui rā i ngā painga o te Mātauranga Hapori me te Hunga Pakeke mō ngā tāngata Māori; mehemea kāore, he aha ai?

[Does he stand by his speech to the Community Colleges Conference on Wednesday, 20 May 2009, where he praises the benefits of adult and community education for Māori; if not, why not?]

SharplesHon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Associate Minister of Education) Link to this

Āe, ka tū pakari ai.

[An interpretation in English was given to the House.]

[Yes, it will endure.]

DavisKelvin Davis Link to this

Does the Minister see the irony in the fact that just a week after he had sung the praises and benefits of adult and community education for Māori to that group in Australia, he voted for a Budget that slashed those same programmes that benefit Māori?

SharplesHon Dr PITA SHARPLES Link to this

Kāre au e tautoko ana i te aukati i ngā pūtea mō ngā akoranga pakeke engari, kai roto i tō mātou kawenata tētahi kaupapa e whakaae ana kia kore whakaae.

[An interpretation in English was given to the House.]

[I do not support cuts in funding for adult education, but there is scope in our party manifesto to agree to disagree.]

DavisKelvin Davis Link to this

Has the Minister checked with the Minister of Education which of the courses he praised for their benefits for Māori are hobby courses, and was he offended by that description, as most Māori would be?

SharplesHon Dr PITA SHARPLES Link to this

Kei te kaha au ki te tautoko i ngā akoranga pakeke mō ngā Māori, ā, kei raro i taku mana ngā wānanga. Kei te pai rātau nā te mea, ko tāku he ārahi i a rātau.

[An interpretation in English was given to the House.]

[I am a strong supporter of adult education for the Māori people, and universities come under my portfolio. They are well, because my role is to lead them.]

FlavellTe Ururoa Flavell Link to this

Kua ngaro katoa ki a ngāi Māori ngā huarahi e taea ai e ia te whai atu i roto i te wāhanga matauranga ā-pakeke, ā-hapori rānei?

[An interpretation in English was given to the House.]

[Have the Māori people lost all opportunities possible for them to pursue adult and community education?]

SharplesHon Dr PITA SHARPLES Link to this

Kāo, i te mea ara anō ngā huarahi ki a Māori mā ki te tono kia noho hai puna mātauranga, pēnei i ētahi atu rōpū.

[An interpretation in English was given to the House.]

[No, because there are many opportunities for Māoridom to seek to become adult education providers, like any other group.]

DavisKelvin Davis Link to this

How can the Minister hand out praise about the benefits of adult learning with one hand, then cut funding to the Skill Enhancement fund, which funded Rangitahi Māia, with the other hand?

SharplesHon Dr PITA SHARPLES Link to this

Kua oti kē taku whakautu ki tēnā pātai engari, ngā mea kua aukatingia i te pūtea, tono mai ki a au, māku e tono atu ki te Minita mātua me te Minita Putea ki te kimi āwhina mō rātau. Kāre anō kia mutu ki tēnei take.

[An interpretation in English was given to the House.]

[I have already answered that question, but those denied funding should send their request for assistance to me and I will send it on to the Minister of Education and the Minister of Finance. This matter is not over yet.]

FlavellTe Ururoa Flavell Link to this

Ki te Minita, ka pā anō ngā whakahounga nei mō te mātauranga mō te hapori me te pakeke ki te ki ngā whare wānanga?

[An interpretation in English was given to the House.]

[To the Minister, do these changes in adult and community education apply to universities?]

SharplesHon Dr PITA SHARPLES Link to this

Kāhore. Nāku i tono ki te Minita matua kia waiho ngā wānanga ki waho o te kati.

[An interpretation in English was given to the House.]

[No. I sought assurances from the Minister of Education that universities should be exempt.]

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