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Internal Affairs, Department—Proposed Merger with Office of Ethnic Affairs

Thursday 18 November 2010 Hansard source (external site)

Prasad12. Dr RAJEN PRASAD (Labour) Link to this
to the Minister for Ethnic Affairs

What will be the effects of the proposed relocation of the Office of Ethnic Affairs to tier three in the new structure for the Department of Internal Affairs on the services it currently provides to ethic communities?

GuyHon NATHAN GUY (Minister of Internal Affairs) Link to this

The roles and functions of the Office of Ethnic Affairs will remain exactly the same as they are now.

PrasadDr Rajen Prasad Link to this

Why is it, in his opinion, that staff and stakeholders expressed opposition to the downgrading of the office and were concerned that it may lessen access to the Minister and chief executive, as well as sending a negative message to stakeholders about its importance?

GuyHon NATHAN GUY Link to this

The director’s role is unchanged in a new policy, regulatory, and ethnic affairs branch of the Department of Internal Affairs. That member should not get hung up on tier levels. The Department of Internal Affairs’ passport operation, for instance, the member might be pleased to know, employs 170 people in New Zealand and overseas, generates third-party revenues of more than $55 million, and is critically important to New Zealand’s security, international access, and success. It is bigger than some stand-alone Government departments, and, indeed, is led by a third-tier manager.

PrasadDr Rajen Prasad Link to this

I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. My question was about the Office of Ethnic Affairs, and I asked the Minister to express his views on why stakeholders have expressed an opinion. He did not address that at all.

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

When members ask Ministers to express their views on something, there is no precise answer to that. I heard the Minister explain that the role of the director-general had not changed, and that that is one of the reasons—he was expressing his view—why people should not be concerned about the change. It was an absolutely fair answer to the question.

PrasadDr Rajen Prasad Link to this

What is the Minister’s response to the view of ethnic leaders—for example, the Waitakere Indian Association—that the relocation of the Office of Ethnic Affairs sends the wrong signals about the importance and functions of the office at a time when the New Zealand population is diversifying significantly, and, therefore, the need for its services is increasing?

GuyHon NATHAN GUY Link to this

I thank those people who have made submissions through this process. That is an important part of hearing their concerns and any ideas that they have. I need to reassure the community that this will further strengthen the Office of Ethnic Affairs, and that member might be pleased to know that yesterday I was briefed by the director of the Office of Ethnic Affairs and I expect that to continue in the ongoing new working environment.

PrasadDr Rajen Prasad Link to this

Will the Acting Minister of Ethnic Affairs in her new advocacy role for ethnic New Zealanders step in to protect the Office of Ethnic Affairs from being downgraded and marginalised; if not, why not?

GuyHon NATHAN GUY Link to this

I do not believe that it is being downgraded or marginalised.

PrasadDr Rajen Prasad Link to this

I seek leave to table a document from the website of the Department of Internal Affairs on the organisational structure of the department, where it expresses the views of those who submitted.

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is no objection.

Document, by leave, laid on the Table of the House.

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