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Public Assets—Privatisation

Wednesday 16 December 2009 Hansard source (external site)

Cunliffe3. Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) Link to this
to the Minister of Finance

Did he say at the Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update lock-up yesterday that while the Government does not plan privatisation in this term of Parliament, it recognises various assets as not well-managed or struggling to keep up with the pace; and did he single out four entities in this context?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) Link to this

The answer to that is yes, and that is because that member’s Government left behind a swath of badly managed taxpayers’ assets, and we are trying to sort them out.

DalzielHon Lianne Dalziel Link to this

When the Minister said that Television New Zealand was not well-managed and was struggling to keep up with the pace, was he sending the signal that the only conclusion a National Government review will arrive at is to sell it off?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

No. I was describing the state of an asset that that member’s Government left in appalling shape.

BoscawenJohn Boscawen Link to this

Does he agree with the 2025 Taskforce that “It is difficult to conceive of a reason why the New Zealand government should own a large coal-mining company, three major electricity generating and retail companies, one of New Zealand’s largest exporting firms …”; if not, what is the compelling reason?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

No, I do not agree with it.

HughesHon Darren Hughes Link to this

When the Minister of Finance said that Kordia and New Zealand Post were “not well-managed” and “struggling to keep up with the pace”, was he sending the signal that the only conclusion a National Government review can possibly arrive at is to sell them both off?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

No. I was describing the state of those assets. A large number of taxpayers’ assets have been left in an appalling state by that member’s Government. We are taking responsibility, kicking its cronies off the boards, and lifting the performance of those assets.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

When he said that New Zealand Post was “not well-managed” and “struggling to keep up with the pace”, was he talking about Kiwibank’s performance? What was it that disappointed him, and why was he not more open about including Kiwibank in the State-owned enterprise sales list directly?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

When I made those comments I was commenting on the state of the assets. I know that Labour will not accept responsibility, but its members should apologise to New Zealanders for how much value their Government destroyed, and for how badly a lot of taxpayers’ assets were run on their watch.

BoscawenJohn Boscawen Link to this

What is the compelling reason for the New Zealand Government to own a large coalmining company, three major electricity generating and retailing companies, and one of New Zealand’s largest exporters?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

The compelling reason is that it does own them, and given that those assets were built up by taxpayers giving up their PAYE each week, this Government takes its role of protecting and growing the value of those assets very carefully. They have been built up by hard cash paid each week by people who could easily have used it for other purposes that might have suited them better. The previous Government did not understand that.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

Why did he single out Television New Zealand, Kordia, New Zealand Post, and KiwiRail, if he does not plan to open the door to sales; is it just coincidence that this comes a day before a report recommending partial privatisation, or is it cover for his brazen manipulation of history and his obvious lack of a real plan for growth?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

No, I singled them out because, as I described them at the time, they are fading network businesses. It is very difficult for New Zealand Post, for Television New Zealand, or for Kordia actually to make money. If that member’s Government had paid more attention to what was going on with those businesses, taxpayers would not have lost so much money.

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