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Economy—Reports

Thursday 30 July 2009 Hansard source (external site)

Foss4. CRAIG FOSS (National—Tukituki) Link to this
to the Minister of Finance

What recent reports has he received on the economy?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) Link to this

I have seen several reports, including comments made by the Governor of the Reserve Bank today. The basic picture is that the economy shows signs of stabilising following a recession that has lasted about 18 months. Growth is not yet strong, but at least the economy appears to have stopped contracting at the rates of last year and earlier this year. There is, however, a marked difference between leading and lagging indicators. Lagging indicators such as employment are still worsening; we expect unemployment to keep rising for some time. By contrast, forward-looking indicators such as business and consumer confidence have improved over the past 6 months.

FossCraig Foss Link to this

What reports has he seen about the outlook for unemployment?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

Employment is one of the last indicators to respond to changing economic conditions. It is the last to improve in an upturn and the last to turn down when the economy is slowing. So, unfortunately, unemployment is likely to continue to rise. The household labour force survey for the June quarter will be published next Thursday. We expect it to show an increase on the 5 percent unemployment rate reported for the March quarter, as the impacts from the recession continue to show through.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

In light of the massively rising unemployment, is he concerned that the OECD has recently re-rated the efforts of his Government’s stimulus package from the claimed 5 percent of GDP to only 3.5 percent of GDP, and has dropped New Zealand’s rating from the top five to the ninth in the OECD on a per capita basis; and can the Minister therefore explain why his Government is retrenching at the same time that unemployment lines are growing?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

The member just contradicted himself. If there is a stimulus of 3.5 percent of GDP, that is precisely not retrenching. The evidence for that is that the Government is out in the market right now, in the process of borrowing billions of dollars to inject into the economy. One of the effects of that is that our unemployment rate is one of the lowest in the developed world. Despite the fact that Australia has not had a technical recession when we have had seven quarters of contraction, our unemployment rate is still lower than Australia’s.

FossCraig Foss Link to this

What indicators has he seen showing an improvement in business confidence?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

The National Bank’s National Business Outlook shows an improvement in business confidence, but, as I have said before, an improvement in the outlook for businesses is not a guarantee that unemployment will stop rising, nor is it a guarantee that the economy will pick up strongly. We would expect that, on the basis of these indicators, the economy will show some improvement in the last quarter of this year or perhaps in the first quarter of next year, but the situation remains patchy. Some businesses are doing quite well, and others are really struggling.

FossCraig Foss Link to this

What comments has the Minister seen about the Government’s role in keeping down unemployment?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

I have seen one relevant comment, and I will quote: “Any mug, or any Government, can overspend, live on borrowed money, and, in the short term, sustain consumption and demand, and thus keep unemployment down a little lower than it otherwise would have been.” Those comments came from former employment Minister Phil Goff, when he was the fresh face of the Labour Party. He appears to have changed his mind, though. Well, it was 20 years ago! It—

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The Minister had gone on for quite long enough. When I get to my feet, the Deputy Prime Minister will cease and sit down. I alert him to that point.

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