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New Zealand—Credit Rating

Wednesday 27 May 2009 Hansard source (external site)

Cunliffe6. Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) Link to this
to the Minister of Finance

What issues does he believe are of most concern to credit rating agencies in respect of New Zealand: Government debt or the resilience of the wider economy?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) Link to this

Both of those issues are important to the economy, and the Government wants to make sure we get control of Government debt and increase the resilience of the wider economy. The Government will continue to do what is best for New Zealand; rating agencies will continue to form opinions on the results of our decisions.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

Is the Minister aware that Moody’s Investors Service rates New Zealand as having only a “limited debt challenge” and places New Zealand as being amongst the most resistant economies to the global downturn; if so, why has he been attempting to scare New Zealanders into accepting his Government’s contractionary policies and his leader’s broken promises?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

That question is full of assumptions that are incorrect. The Government has set out to make the best decisions for New Zealand, according to our own judgment. The rating agencies will make whatever decisions they want to make.

Lotu-IigaPeseta Sam Lotu-Iiga Link to this

What previous approaches by New Zealand Ministers of Finance to dealing with rating agencies is the Minister aware of?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

I can quote my predecessor, Michael Cullen, who said in 2006 “when rating agencies call they largely ask the questions and I supply the answers. What the agency wanted assurance about was that there would be no sudden lurching around in the Government’s fiscal policy”. That is a reasonable approach for any Minister of Finance to take, and it remains the case. I have been happy to brief rating agencies when major decisions have been taken, to assure them that the Crown’s finances are on a stable and sensible path.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

How can the Minister reconcile his statement to the House yesterday that “The Government actually has not talked about the credit rating agencies—hardly at all—since it came to office.” with his leader’s statement that “We have to make sure we don’t deliver deeper recession by allowing ourselves to blow our debt profile and threaten our international rating.”?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

That is an entirely sensible reference to the fact that New Zealand has to borrow billions of dollars from overseas lenders, and lenders’ perceptions of this country matter.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

Does the Minister agree that it is a “nonsense” to suggest that New Zealand would have to borrow $50 billion extra by 2013, because any Government—National or Labour—would adjust its policy to ensure a sustainable fiscal path?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

Certainly, the National-led Government is adjusting policy in order to make sure we have sustainable debt. All the signs from Labour are that it has not learnt the lessons of losing an election and is still advocating endless spending and a lot more debt.

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