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Budget 2011—Spending Priorities

Tuesday 22 March 2011 (advance copy) Hansard source (external site)

Foss3. CRAIG FOSS (National—Tukituki) Link to this
to the Minister of Finance

What will be the Government’s spending priorities in Budget 2011?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) Link to this

The Budget will press on with reducing New Zealand’s vulnerability to foreign lenders, getting the Government’s finances in order, and building faster growth around higher national savings and exports. Health and education are likely to receive the bulk of new operating spending, about $800 million per year, and in addition there will be considerable expenditure in rebuilding Christchurch, particularly its infrastructure. The operating deficit could be as high as 8 to 9 percent of GDP per year.

FossCraig Foss Link to this

Why is it important that the Government return to surplus and stop accumulating debt within a reasonable time frame?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

For a number of reasons. First, New Zealand as a whole has among the highest levels of debt, public and private, in the developed world, and the debt incurred with the earthquake would push us to the limits of our comfort. Also, if we can get hold of the deficit and debt, we will be able to help keep interest rates low, which will help with the creation of jobs and higher incomes.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

Why is he using the 22 February earthquake as an excuse for proposing cuts to Working for Families, when the Prime Minister said he was looking at cutting Working for Families less than a month before the earthquake?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

There is no doubt that the earthquake puts extra pressure on the need for Government to control its expenditure, but as we have done in the last couple of Budgets, we are taking a considered and consistent approach and we are taking measured decisions. The member will just have to wait, but there will not be anything too radical.

KeyRt Hon John Key Link to this

Has the Minister of Finance seen comments made by the Hon Phil Goff at his press conference yesterday, when he was asked a question and said in reply that he was opposed to making changes to Working for Families? To the question whether he thinks someone earning $140,000 a year needs help from the Government, his answer was: “Well, the answer to that is probably no.”, and when he was asked what about a family with two parents earning $70,000 a year—whether their Working for Families payment should be changed—he said: “I’m not going to go through that, because I haven’t worked through the detail.” Has he seen those questions?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

Yes, I have seen those and I was embarrassed to read them.

GoffHon Phil Goff Link to this

If the Government breaks its word and cuts Working for Families, can he inform the House that the money he would save by cutting Working for Families for a couple with a joint income of more than $100,000 would be only about $27 million?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

The Government, as I said, is working through a considered process of making decisions, and the member can expect that we will maintain our principle of protecting the vulnerable and supporting New Zealanders through tough economic times.

GoffHon Phil Goff Link to this

I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Do you believe that the Minister even attempted to answer that question?

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The member asked the Minister whether he could confirm that certain things would or would not happen. The Minister, in answering, said that a process was being followed. We cannot force the Minister to give a particular answer.

HideHon Rodney Hide Link to this

I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I was wondering whether we could ask the Prime Minister through you to table the transcript so the Minister of Finance’s embarrassment can be more widely shared.

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

I apologise to the House for being too slow to sit the member down. He knows that is not a point of order.

FossCraig Foss Link to this

What factors will drive total operating spending over the next few years?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

The Government will be slowing down the rate of growth of spending. Core Crown operating expenses will be around $72 billion in 2011-12, which is about $8 billion higher than 2 years earlier. That may be Labour’s definition of slashing expenditure; it is not ours.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

What does he consider measured and considered about the following process: that last Thursday he said that there will be no cuts to operating spending, and by Sunday the Prime Minister said that there will be no new operating spending?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

That is not correct. The Prime Minister signalled early in the year that the Government would be tightening up on spending. We have set about a considered and measured process for doing so. There is no doubt that the earthquake has put more pressure on the need to eliminate some of the wasteful programmes that Labour put in place, so we can use the money for better purposes.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

The Minister has contested the presumption of my previous question. Therefore, I seek leave—

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The House will come to a little more order. The member knows that if he is going to seek leave to table a document, he should not preface it with that kind of language. I will give him one more chance to get it right.

CunliffeHon David Cunliffe Link to this

I seek leave to table a copy of the transcript of Q+ on Sunday, which confirms the Prime Minister’s statement—

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

We do not table transcripts of recent television programmes.

FossCraig Foss Link to this

How will the Government direct its capital spending in Budget 2011?

EnglishHon BILL ENGLISH Link to this

The Government remains committed to the programme of roads of national significance, as well as reinvesting in rail and upgrading the electricity grid and in rolling out ultra-fast broadband. That is because we are committed to the long-term investment required to lift productivity and economic performance, and, therefore, produce more jobs and higher incomes.

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