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Police—Planning for Holiday Period

Tuesday 8 December 2009 Hansard source (external site)

Cosgrove7. Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour—Waimakariri) Link to this
to the Minister of Police

Is she satisfied that the police have sufficient plans in place to cope with the extra duties and stresses created in the run-up to Christmas?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Police) Link to this

I have full confidence in the ability of the New Zealand Police to cope with the run-up to Christmas. I am surprised that, by implication, the member does not share my confidence in the New Zealand Police.

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The question was a perfectly straight question and did not deserve the last part to the answer.

CosgroveHon Clayton Cosgrove Link to this

Does she stand by her statement in the New Zealand Herald of 17 June 2009 that “there would be no drop in service delivery. There will be no issues regarding safety for the public or for the police.”, in respect of the 10 percent reduction in the police vehicle fleet; and, further, when she stated: “you’re not talking about frontline cars, you’re talking about vans and pool cars …”?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

I stand by comments that I have made that were based on assurances given to me by the Commissioner of Police. I agree with the Commissioner of Police. That member is always trying to make such a lot out of this issue, yet the New Zealand Police now has an attrition rate of less than 2 percent—the lowest since World War II.

CosgroveHon Clayton Cosgrove Link to this

I am not the only one trying to make a meal out of this. How does she reconcile those comments with the statement from the President of the Police Association, Greg O’Connor, who also has a view on her conduct, that on top of the extra duties and stresses created for the police in the run-up to Christmas, the most pressing issue for the police in 2009 is “how the hell to transport more people around for these duties with 10 percent fewer vehicles at your disposal.”?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

I have not read that quote from Mr O’Connor. No doubt, Mr O’Connor and I will discuss it at this evening’s Christmas party at the Police Association.

CosgroveHon Clayton Cosgrove Link to this

While she is having drinks at the Christmas party tonight, can she tell us how she reconciles the assurance she gave to the New Zealand public that no front-line police vehicles would be withdrawn with the fact that, as an example, a purpose-built specialist drug-dog vehicle has been withdrawn in Dunedin?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

Actually, we have new police cars going into operation right now, but I know that the member will not admit it. He should just wait till later this week, when he will see some new cars going in and some new vehicles that he is not aware of. I think they will be much more purpose-built for the police.

CosgroveHon Clayton Cosgrove Link to this

I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. My question was about a specific example in Dunedin. It was responded to with a general statement—the Minister laughs, prior to her drinks this evening—about police vehicle policy. The question was about a specific example in respect of Dunedin.

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The member, if he recollects his question, asked the Minister how she reconciled a couple of matters, and the Minister reconciled them by pointing out that, in fact, new vehicles were being introduced this week. That seemed to be a perfectly fair answer to the question that the member asked.

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