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Police, New Zealand—Confidence

Thursday 12 February 2009 Hansard source (external site)

Cosgrove8. Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour—Waimakariri) Link to this
to the Minister of Police

Does she have confidence in the police?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Police) Link to this

Yes, and I am surprised that, by implication, the member does not.

CosgroveHon Clayton Cosgrove Link to this

Does the Minister agree with me that victims, their families, and the community are not interested in her trivialising the issue of escapes by providing clever and technical answers to parliamentary questions about whether the escapes happened under the watch of the Department of Corrections or the New Zealand Police, when she is the Minister responsible for both portfolios?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

I am sure members of the public would like the member to get his facts right before he comes down to this House to make such statements.

CosgroveHon Clayton Cosgrove Link to this

What specific action has the Minister taken to reassure victims, their families, and the community that she will stem the tide of escapes, apart from touring the country and asking everyone else for his or her ideas on how she should do her job?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

I have asked the police for a report on how these escapes happened, and I have received that report. What I have found out is that despite the 9 years of a Labour Government, it never took any steps to rectify the law that currently prevents the police from routinely holding prisoners in restraints. Not only that; the Labour Government’s occupational safety and health laws required the police to have an escape hatch in every police van.

GoudieSandra Goudie Link to this

What recent reports has the Minister received on policing in Counties-Manukau?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

I have received a report from the police that shows that violent crime in Counties-Manukau increased by 69 percent in the 4 years from 2003-04 to 2007-08. Recorded violent offences per 10,000 of population are up from 124.1 in 2003 to 191.9 in 2007. The police advise that the district faces constant pressure from rising crime and urgent calls for service.

CullenHon Dr Michael Cullen Link to this

I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. This is a tediously long answer to a very simple question that required a very simple answer.

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The member has made a perfectly fair point. The Minister was going on for far too long in answering the question.

CosgroveHon Clayton Cosgrove Link to this

Can the Minister confirm two facts: firstly, that under the previous Government escapes were reduced by 84 percent in 9 years, and, secondly, that thus far under her watch, in the last 3 months, the rate of escapes from police custody is one of the highest in the last 3 years?

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The Hon Judith Collins may answer one of those questions.

GoudieSandra Goudie Link to this

Did the police refer to significant additional resources; if so, what significant additional resources were they referring to?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

This Government intends to assist the police to fight crime and protect the public. There will be 300 new sworn police in front-line roles in Counties-Manukau by the end of 2010. The law-abiding citizens of South Auckland deserve better than they ever got from the previous Labour Government.

FlavellTe Ururoa Flavell Link to this

Kia ora, Mr Speaker. At what point will the Minister call a meeting with community leaders, including those in the gangs, to look at finding enduring solutions to situations such as those that occurred in Murupara 2 weeks ago and Pōmare this week?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

I have no intention of calling meetings with gangs.

HarawiraHone Harawira Link to this

Tēnā koe, Mr Speaker. Will the—[ Interruption]

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The member should have the chance to ask his question. Show some courtesy, please.

HarawiraHone Harawira Link to this

Will the Minister insist that in future, given the shambolic debacle of the recent police terrorism raids into Tūhoe, the police Māori strategic adviser, Superintendent Wally Haumaha, be fully consulted on every major incident involving Māori groups or communities; if not, why not?

CollinsHon JUDITH COLLINS Link to this

I will not politicise the police by telling them how to do their job, but I will say—[ Interruption] Just calm down. I will say to the member that, as he will be aware, matters relating to the Tūhoe raids—which were made under the Labour Government—are being addressed.

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