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Tax Cuts—Finance, Minister’s Comments

Tuesday 23 May 2006 Hansard source (external site)

BRASH3. Dr DON BRASH (Leader of the Opposition) Link to this
to the Prime Minister

Does she agree with the Hon Dr Michael Cullen’s comments that tax cuts may be affordable “in a year or two’s time, depending on forecasts of revenue.”; if so, what action will she take as Prime Minister to ensure New Zealanders can benefit from tax cuts?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK (Prime Minister) Link to this

I agree that the affordability of any initiative in future Budgets depends on forecasts of revenue. As Prime Minister I am proud to lead a Government that has already provided for $6.1 billion of tax relief to families over the next few years.

BRASHDr Don Brash Link to this

If tax cuts are unaffordable when we are running an $8.5 billion surplus, with a further $14 billion worth of surpluses conservatively projected for the next 3 years, just how big a Budget surplus does she think New Zealand would need to run before tax cuts, according to her yardstick, would be affordable?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

Family tax relief is indeed affordable, and it is much appreciated. I have a letter from a woman who writes: “Today I received confirmation we’re entitled to family assistance of $85 a week. Now we can go to the doctor when we need to, get a haircut when needed, and don’t have to go without meat and the groceries. Thank you for Working for Families.”

BrownPeter Brown Link to this

Can we take it from that answer that the Prime Minister agrees with a constituent who rang me the other day and declared himself to be a National Party voter at the last election—[ Interruption]

WilsonMadam SPEAKER Link to this

Members know the rules when members are asking questions. They are on their last warning. Would the member please start again.

BrownPeter Brown Link to this

Does the Prime—by noting those answers, does the Prime Minister agree with the constituent who telephoned me the other day—

BrownleeGerry Brownlee Link to this

I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker. While we are enforcing the Standing Orders, Mr Brown should ask his question by starting with a question word.

WilsonMadam SPEAKER Link to this

Yes, would the member please ask a question—

CullenHon Dr Michael Cullen Link to this

The question started with the word “does”. That is quite a normal start to a question.

BrownleeGerry Brownlee Link to this

I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker—

WilsonMadam SPEAKER Link to this

Do you wish to continue this?

BrownleeGerry Brownlee Link to this

Well, Madam Speaker, you will have to adjudicate. The member said: “Does—noting the Prime Minister’s comments …”, so that is hardly starting with a question.

WilsonMadam SPEAKER Link to this

If we could allow him to finish it, it might get there.

BrownPeter Brown Link to this

I do not mind if that is the attitude of the National Party when it comes to asking questions, but I would just point out that it is childish, petty, and it does this House no good whatsoever.

WilsonMadam SPEAKER Link to this

I thank the member. That is not a point of order; it is an observation.

BrownPeter Brown Link to this

Does the Prime Minister agree with the constituent who telephoned me the other day and declared himself a National Party voter, saying he voted for Bob Clarkson, that Working for Families is no more and no less than targeted tax relief for a very worthwhile sector of our community?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

Absolutely, I agree with that constituent. That point of view is substantiated by many messages I have received, including this one that states: “In our household the extra $132 that is received each week has eased the financial pressure substantially. Now when I go to the supermarket I shop knowing there is room in the budget to buy a reasonable amount of groceries for the week.” The National Party might not care about families; this side of the House does.

BRASHDr Don Brash Link to this

Does the Prime Minister understand that every dollar of tax her Government needlessly takes from hard-working New Zealanders results in weaker and weaker incentives to work harder, gain skills, and get ahead—precisely the behaviour that New Zealand needs if we are to effect her economic transformation?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

No. What I accept is that the substantial investments being made in health, education, policing, and infrastructure are taking this country ahead. I also accept that there is a place for Dr Brash: it is in a retirement home in Australia.

BRASHDr Don Brash Link to this

Has she seen Dr Cullen’s public statement that tax cuts would be affordable only if the Government were running an operating surplus of “around 3 percent of GDP”, and can she explain why, when she herself is on record as saying that her Government would aim to run surpluses of “just 1 percent of GDP”, there have been no tax cuts, given that surpluses have been running above that level for at least 3 years?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

Yes, I have seen the statement and I shall always defer to the prudence and wisdom of my colleague.

CullenHon Dr Michael Cullen Link to this

In light of the previous question, is the Prime Minister aware that under the National Government of the 1990s the target operating surplus was 3 percent of GDP, despite the fact that there was no superannuation fund to make transfers into?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

I am certainly aware of that, and I am also aware of the utterly reckless attitude the National Party takes towards fiscal policy.

BRASHDr Don Brash Link to this

Why has her Government backtracked on proposed changes to income tax thresholds that less than a year ago Dr Cullen said would “make the tax system fairer over time”?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

The simple answer is that it has not. Dr Brash should read the Budget.

BRASHDr Don Brash Link to this

I seek leave to table the speech made by Helen Clark in which she says that her Government would aim to run Budget surpluses of 1 percent of GDP. It is a speech to the New Lynn Rotary Club.

Document, by leave, laid on the Table of the House.

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