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Early Childhood Education—Free Hours, Service Providers

Tuesday 13 March 2007 Hansard source (external site)

Key3. JOHN KEY (Leader of the Opposition) Link to this
to the Prime Minister

Does she stand by her statement that “20 hours’ free education a week will be able to be provided for 3 and 4-year-olds at any licensed teacher-led service in New Zealand from July 2007”; if so, how many services does she expect to actually offer the 20 hours free?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK (Prime Minister) Link to this

Yes. Labour’s 20 hours’ free education policy will be available to all teacher-led early childhood education centres from 1 July, and the Government is optimistic about the take-up.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

Can the Prime Minister assure the House that come 1 July there will be enough services signed up to the 20 hours’ free education policy to make good Trevor Mallard’s election promise that 92,000 children will get it; if not, why not?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

I refer the member back to the statement in his original question. This 20 hours’ free education will be able to be provided. The providers are now working through the implications for them and we are optimistic about uptake.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

How can she be confident that enough suppliers will actually provide this service, when last week the Auckland Kindergarten Association—representing 10 percent of all eligible 3 and 4-year-olds—stated that it could not afford to run the 20 free hours, over 60 percent of community-run nationwide services are stating that they cannot afford it, and the kindergarten association is running a not-for-profit service?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

I do not accept the member’s figures, but what I would say is that I find it curious that the National Party, which opposes the policy, seems to want to throw infinite amounts of taxpayers’ money at it.

CullenHon Dr Michael Cullen Link to this

In the light of that last answer, does the Prime Minister believe that the noise around this issue is coming more from those who oppose the objectives of the policy, or more from those who simply think the rate of payment should be higher?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

In the early childhood sector, it is hard to find anybody who opposes the objectives of the policy. The only outfit I can find that opposes 3 and 4-year-olds having 20 hours’ free education is the National Party.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

Does the Prime Minister agree that her Government promised New Zealanders 20 free hours of early childhood education for 3 and 4-year-olds, yet the vast majority of New Zealanders will not be able to access that, because the scheme has been so badly designed that suppliers will not sign up, and how can that be interpreted by New Zealand parents, who relied on her promise, to be her keeping her word?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

All I can say is that it will be a substantial disappointment to the member as so many centres come into the policy.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

Does the Prime Minister think she is misleading Kiwi mums and dads when they go to the Government website advertising the policy of 20 free hours and find listed as a provider Auckland Kindergarten Association, which last week said it would not be opting in?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

Of course, it did not say that at all.

KeyJohn Key Link to this

Does the Prime Minister agree with Steve Maharey that the conditions attached to the 20 free hours, in terms of the hourly rate and the inability for a co-subsidy, will not change?

ClarkRt Hon HELEN CLARK Link to this

It is most unlikely, because they are based on a survey of the sector as of last year.

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