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MediaWorks, Payment Arrangement—Confidence in Ministers Involved

Tuesday 12 April 2011 (advance copy) Hansard source (external site)

Mallard9. Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) Link to this
to the Prime Minister

Does he have confidence in all Ministers involved in the MediaWorks frequency payment arrangement?

MallardHon Trevor Mallard Link to this

Does he agree with Steven Joyce’s statement of 10 March 2011 that there was no Government loan to MediaWorks, and with a similar statement on Q+A last Sunday made by Bill English?

MallardHon Trevor Mallard Link to this

Why, then, did the arrangement require the approval of the Minister of Finance as a loan under section 65N of the Public Finance Act?

KeyRt Hon JOHN KEY Link to this

Because that was the accounting treatment required under the Public Finance Act.

MallardHon Trevor Mallard Link to this

Was Cabinet advised that this arrangement was a loan requiring the authority of the Minister of Finance under the Public Finance Act?

KeyRt Hon JOHN KEY Link to this

Not to the best of my knowledge, but I do not have the papers with me.

MallardHon Trevor Mallard Link to this

Did he personally sign, or give a specific authorisation for his electronic signature to be attached to, his original answers to written questions Nos 2043 and 2044 in 2011, which said that he had not had any discussions with the board or senior management of MediaWorks about the deferral scheme?

KeyRt Hon JOHN KEY Link to this

From memory it was about “meetings”. I did not have a meeting with them; I ran into Brent Impey at a function. In the newspapers he is actually described as saying that he was just showing me around. He said he would like to come and see me about the licence. That was it. It was very light. The conversation was a couple of sentences. I have hundreds of encounters like that with people every week.

MallardHon Trevor Mallard Link to this

I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I am somewhat at a loss. I know that we are not allowed to table answers to written questions and we are not allowed to argue about answers. But the Prime Minister said the question was about meetings. I have his reply, which was about discussions.

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The member knows he cannot litigate by way of point of order an answer given. He can put down further questions in the future if he wishes to pursue a matter, and he can ask further supplementary questions today, of course.

MallardHon Trevor Mallard Link to this

Did he read the advice from Deloitte in its report on this proposal?

KeyRt Hon JOHN KEY Link to this

To the best of my knowledge, no.

MallardHon Trevor Mallard Link to this

Was he told that the Deloitte conclusion was that “the licence purchases at the prices contracted with the Ministry should be affordable without compromising the longer term financial viability of the companies … This conclusion does not change, even for the worst-case scenario modelled.”, and that this issue was a problem of the low capitalisation of MediaWorks by its Australian private equity owners; if so, what is the public interest in bailing out Australian companies that do not properly capitalise their New Zealand subsidiaries?

KeyRt Hon JOHN KEY Link to this

At the time the Government approved that offer, it was approved for a number of companies. Every company in that sector was able to take up the offer. It was brought to us by the Radio Broadcasters Association and it was considerably changed by Cabinet. The fact that some companies chose not to take up the offer shows that it was not as good a deal as that; if it was a sweet-heart deal, every company would have taken it up. I might add that members on the Opposition benches seem terribly confused, because last week David Cunliffe—

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

No, I think the answer—

KeyRt Hon JOHN KEY Link to this

It is quite a salient point.

SmithMr SPEAKER Link to this

The Opposition does not deserve to be attacked. Accusing—[ Interruption] I am on my feet. Accusing parties or members of being confused in this place is kind of an attack. The Prime Minister had given a perfectly good answer and did not need to add that last bit to it.

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