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State Services Commission—Merger of Department and Ministry

Thursday 4 May 2006 Hansard source (external site)

Collins4. JUDITH COLLINS (National—Clevedon) Link to this
to the Minister of State Services

Is she satisfied with the way in which the State Services Commission offered advice on the Department of Child, Youth and Family Services - Ministry of Social Development merger?

CollinsJudith Collins Link to this

Why, when the State Services Commission in December last year warned that a merger could “destabilise MSD” and create an “unmanageable chief executive position”, and that the capability and operational problems that the Department of Child, Youth and Family Services faced would not be fixed by a merger, did she ignore the commission’s advice?

KingHon ANNETTE KING Link to this

No. The State Services Commissioner changed his mind over Christmas, and came back to the Government and said he had changed his mind.

RobertsonH V Ross Robertson Link to this

What are the outcomes that the Government expects to receive from the merger?

KingHon ANNETTE KING Link to this

The paper prepared by my official recommended a much wider range of initiatives than just the merger. That complete package of measures will include services for the most vulnerable children in New Zealand. They include the merger, of course, but also the improvement of systems-wide management, improved information management, improved youth justice capability, the addressing of the culture issues, and greater policy coordination.

CollinsJudith Collins Link to this

Which report from the State Services Commissioner is right: the one in December 2005 that says: “We do not think that the capability and operational problems faced by CYFS will necessarily be any more easily resolved in the context of a larger organisation. The potential is rather that the problems will be more difficult to address because of the inevitable loss of focus due to scope.”, or the report from January 2006—1 month later—that says the merger is “the best option for improving the delivery of services for children, youth, and their families”—and why?

KingHon ANNETTE KING Link to this

The January report—the State Services Commissioner changed his mind.

CollinsJudith Collins Link to this

What changed the State Services Commissioner’s mind from December to January?

KingHon ANNETTE KING Link to this

He had the period between December and January to give it greater consideration—which he did—and he changed his mind.

CollinsJudith Collins Link to this

What was the extent of the consultation between the State Services Commission and Child, Youth and Family Services and Ministry of Social Development senior staff before the State Services Commission report was signed off on 27 January this year?

KingHon ANNETTE KING Link to this

I am unable to give the member the answer. I do not have it with me. I am certainly happy to find it out for the member.

CollinsJudith Collins Link to this

What other explanation is there for the State Services Commission’s dramatic change in position, other than the obvious one that her Government put political pressure on the State Services Commissioner over Christmas to change the advice?

KingHon ANNETTE KING Link to this

The member is wrong. No pressure was put on the State Services Commissioner. That is made up by the member. The State Services Commissioner—as members of this House know—is an independent thinker and a man with a brain who is able to make his own decisions.

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